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10-02-2012, 10:23 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
Jay, he probably did not run in your circle but he was considered by most to be moderate to conservative.
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10-02-2012, 10:32 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Jay, he probably did not run in your circle but he was considered by most to be moderate to conservative.
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If it was who I believe it was, I heard him preach once at the Tampa GC.
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10-03-2012, 06:25 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
Well, if he has messed up, it sounds like he said he was going to submit to bro kilgore. Good to hear that, we all need to be saved.
I pray for him and the church.
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10-03-2012, 06:39 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
Prayers for Bro. Black and his family as well as this church. NONE of us is beyond failing or falling, be it small or large. It is impossible to take on one another's burdens while we throw each other under the bus.
In my opinion, many times, there is an unfair amount of pressure and expectation put on pastors in general. We all need to work out oue own salvation. I have always believed in personal responsibility for self, and for our families. This should be something that drives us to pray and be compassionate...not the opposite.
I hate hearing about these terrible wounds...these folks need the balm poured in and the blood of Christ pleaded over them. I pray Gods will be done..in Jesus Name!
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10-03-2012, 06:46 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Bro. Terry Black was not a conservative from my understanding. I might be incorrect, but I do not believe that I am wrong. I would need to see more of his church.
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Whether he was conservative or not depends on your paradigm. From my perspective he certainly was. It is certainly not a church that allowed cut hair, makeup or jewelry on women. Nor women wearing pants, etc. Now if you mean maybe he allowed sleeves to be above the elbows.........then that is another story.
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10-03-2012, 06:50 AM
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Well, if he has messed up, it sounds like he said he was going to submit to bro kilgore. Good to hear that, we all need to be saved.
I pray for him and the church.
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Clarification - he asked the church to submit to James Kilgore and Dr. James Hughes for the interim.
Pray for everyone involved in this situation.
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10-03-2012, 07:02 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Prayers for Bro. Black and his family as well as this church. NONE of us is beyond failing or falling, be it small or large. It is impossible to take on one another's burdens while we throw each other under the bus.
In my opinion, many times, there is an unfair amount of pressure and expectation put on pastors in general. We all need to work out oue own salvation. I have always believed in personal responsibility for self, and for our families. This should be something that drives us to pray and be compassionate...not the opposite.
I hate hearing about these terrible wounds...these folks need the balm poured in and the blood of Christ pleaded over them. I pray Gods will be done..in Jesus Name!
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Good post.
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10-03-2012, 07:20 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Originally Posted by The Lemon
Prayers for Bro. Black and his family as well as this church. NONE of us is beyond failing or falling, be it small or large. It is impossible to take on one another's burdens while we throw each other under the bus.
In my opinion, many times, there is an unfair amount of pressure and expectation put on pastors in general. We all need to work out oue own salvation. I have always believed in personal responsibility for self, and for our families. This should be something that drives us to pray and be compassionate...not the opposite.
I hate hearing about these terrible wounds...these folks need the balm poured in and the blood of Christ pleaded over them. I pray Gods will be done..in Jesus Name!
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Beautifully put. As saints we expect mercy and grace, but think our pastor should be perfect.....not happening.
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10-03-2012, 07:30 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Whether he was conservative or not depends on your paradigm. From my perspective he certainly was. It is certainly not a church that allowed cut hair, makeup or jewelry on women. Nor women wearing pants, etc. Now if you mean maybe he allowed sleeves to be above the elbows.........then that is another story.
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Yes, and he is a firm supporter of the Holy Magic Hair doctrine. Lee Stoneking has been a frequent guest.
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10-03-2012, 07:35 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Prayers for Bro. Black and his family as well as this church. NONE of us is beyond failing or falling, be it small or large. It is impossible to take on one another's burdens while we throw each other under the bus.
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Point 1: True, but don't you wish that some of these cats would be as humble before their fall as they are afterward? Instead they create a culture where anything less than sinless perfection is grounds for shunning.
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