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Old 08-29-2012, 09:26 PM
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You shouldn't doubt Scripture because it is God's Word and it is that by which all of us will be Judged.
What I'm really asking is why I should not doubt that the Bible is God's Word.
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Old 08-30-2012, 04:01 AM
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Lose your religion, and follow Christ,
Follow Christ by following the Word of God.

Jam 1:21 ¶ Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.

Jam 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

Jam 1:23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:

Jam 1:24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.

Jam 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth [therein], he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

Jam 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion [is] vain.

Jam 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, [and] to keep himself unspotted from the world.

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Re: "You Can't Be Saved Without a Pastor."

Ya, that's why, although
I don't see that helping you right now.
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Re: "You Can't Be Saved Without a Pastor."

The Bible doesn't tell us to -lose- our religion, but to have true religion.
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Ya, that's why, although
I don't see that helping you right now.
What is why?
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The Bible doesn't tell us to -lose- our religion, but to have true religion.
I agree completely with the spirit of your post,
but dislike what the definition of "religion" has become,
which I suspect has changed from then, from "spiritual seeking"
to "organized system."

I'm also...skeptical? curious? about the
translation of "religion" there, considering
what Scripture has to say about religion
in other spots; although it does say pure...hmm.
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:34 AM
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I agree completely with the spirit of your post,
but dislike what the definition of "religion" has become,
which I suspect has changed from then, from "spiritual seeking"
to "organized system."

I'm also...skeptical? curious? about the
translation of "religion" there, considering
what Scripture has to say about religion
in other spots; although it does say pure...hmm.
Far as I know, Jesus never used the word "religion" or derivatives. He had some strong words for certain religious people, of course.
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Re: "You Can't Be Saved Without a Pastor."

The church was an organized system in the Apostles days
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Re: "You Can't Be Saved Without a Pastor."

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The church was an organized system in the Apostles days
Yup--and when I say that satan runs your religion, I know that sounds horrible, but it's just the way it is. Religion being "man's attempt to reach God." This doesn't necessarily mean that a lot of..."good" doesn't come from religion; people started on the path, if not encouraged to continue upon it (a little test by God, I'm thinking; the first hurdle )

Even the infamous RCC, for example.
The seat of Ecumenical Babylon, surely.
But if one is in need, with no where else
to turn, one is shortly going to be talking to Catholoics.
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Far as I know, Jesus never used the word "religion" or derivatives. He had some strong words for certain religious people, of course.
And yet He went into "their" Synagogues to teach...there ya go.
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