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Old 05-27-2012, 11:00 AM
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Re: Looking for info about Mark Hanby or Verbal Be

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Something about mixed children dancing at alters or something like that. Maybe someone can clarify for us. A lot of racist in early pentecostal movment.
Never heard Bro Bean accused of racism....I am curious to know where that came from.
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Old 05-27-2012, 02:18 PM
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Re: Looking for info about Mark Hanby or Verbal Be

I heard Bro Hanby on several occassions and he was impressive. However, it was related to me by a very reliable source, that he told a brother he no longer needed to pray for he could preach from any scipture in the Bible. To prove it he had the man choose a scripture and he preached thirty minutes without redundancy! It is MY opinion that he, like others, got himself in the way with God! Personality will fail but not God!
I have a series of cassettes on prayer by Bro bean. They are dynamic!
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Old 05-27-2012, 02:40 PM
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Something about mixed children dancing at alters or something like that. Maybe someone can clarify for us. A lot of racist in early pentecostal movment.
I don't believe a word of this give us the source we can listen to.
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Old 05-27-2012, 03:35 PM
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Never heard Bro Bean accused of racism....I am curious to know where that came from.
Let me clarify it was only something I read that was said he said something to that effect. I think it was on this forum.
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Old 05-27-2012, 09:14 PM
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Re: Looking for info about Mark Hanby or Verbal Be

Having read his teachings, I would find this to be highly astonishing. I have never read or heard anything to believe that this was remotely true in any fashion.
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Old 05-27-2012, 09:34 PM
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Having read his teachings, I would find this to be highly astonishing. I have never read or heard anything to believe that this was remotely true in any fashion.
Agreed.
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:51 AM
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Having read his teachings, I would find this to be highly astonishing. I have never read or heard anything to believe that this was remotely true in any fashion.
Its not always obvious, not saying its true for him.
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Old 05-28-2012, 08:06 AM
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Elder Bean preached for an pastored Black folks when it was not popular in the deep South.
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He fell because he got too big for the mothership.
I am very aware of the entire MH situation and if by mothership you mean the UPC org your statement makes no sense.

I will not rehash MH's moral failures here but they had nothing to do with any organization. They were the failures of a man who at some point became a shell of his former self as his considerable charisma and speaking ability took over.

I think from an early age he knew the power of his oratory skill and it must have been a constant battle to remain submitted in every way to the Lord. He could move an audience like no other preacher I have ever heard. In my opinion he was the most powerful oneness pentecostal preacher of the 20th century (at least the most powerful I have ever heard).

At its peak his church, Truth Church, in Ft. Worth was an amazing place. I can remember going to see their TV program taped around 1978 when he had his program on CBN and also had a small Bible College. Hundreds of people were in the prayer room before service and when you walked in the air was electric.

I remember people talking back then about how you could not have a service with TV cameras going (just about every church has them now for video recording) but even stopping several times to redo things for mistakes (they were taping three 30 minute shows the service I was in) the congregation maintained an attitude of praise and worship. I believe the excitement of bringing the Jesus name message to thousands who had never had a chance to hear it before highly motivated the congregatoin.

Of course keep in mind this was before the 500 channel universe we have today. Back then being on CBN insured a much larger viewing audience than being on a religious network today. You were only competing with a handful of local and cable stations in your time slot.

The night I was there I was with the son of a visiting preacher who was a guest speaker so we were ushered into MH's office before service where he was very kind to a 19 year old Bible College student. He invited us to his ranch the next today to spend time with his son which we did.

I think MH was the best chance Oneness Pentecost had of an amazing breakthrough preacher who could have introduced Jesus name baptism to a large number of people. Since MH's fall we have seen this same pattern of failure among many successful preachers featured on mass media. Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart, the guy in Colorado, etc, etc. While I still think mass media is a good way to reach people it is clear the same talents and personality traits that make a person a good media preacher also makes them susceptible to failure. As my pastor said a few months ago "human beings were not designed to be worshipped". That is why so many celebrities who seem to have it all (money, fame, adoration) are drug addicts or alcoholics.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

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"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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Re: Looking for info about Mark Hanby or Verbal Be

Thanks for that post, CCI. It's good to hear positive things about a servant of God and not just negative stuff.
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