Ok. Then "if" this Scripture is not true, why are you here, "if" not to prove it? Your motives become apparent, crystal clear, actually. This too will forward the Kingdom. Let me invite you to continue sniping whenever an actual answer would illuminate God for you a little better, as this surely illuminates Him more clearly for any reader.
"If" this Scripture is true, you may toss the whole Bible, ok? Well, you already have.
Ok. Then "if" this Scripture is not true, why are you here, "if" not to prove it? Your motives become apparent, crystal clear, actually. This too will forward the Kingdom. Let me invite you to continue sniping whenever an actual answer would illuminate God for you a little better, as this surely illuminates Him more clearly for any reader.
"If" this Scripture is true, you may toss the whole Bible, ok? Well, you already have.
Some people enjoy my posts, without agreeing with them. Suit yourself. And you don't have to my "if" comment directly, if you don't want to.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Some people enjoy my posts, without agreeing with them. Suit yourself. And you don't have to my "if" comment directly, if you don't want to.
My point there is that "If" proceeds from a different premise. No one can prove that God exists, this is something you either know or do not know, and "If" does not know. "Discernment" knows, and although I am only acquainted with it, it is obvious to me that "if" is not going to edify here.
"If," for some reason, my image of testing spirits here seems inadequate to anyone, then by all means interpret it for us with some higher truth illuminated; but see that "Haha, lala" is pointless.
My point there is that "If" proceeds from a different premise. No one can prove that God exists, this is something you either know or do not know, and "If" does not know. "Discernment" knows, and although I am only acquainted with it, it is obvious to me that "if" is not going to edify here.
"If," for some reason, my image of testing spirits here seems inadequate to anyone, then by all means interpret it for us with some higher truth illuminated; but see that "Haha, lala" is pointless.
You "know", unless you're wrong. If you try to dispute this, I don't know what else to say.
A different interpretation of that method of testing spirits is pointless, if it is wrong in the first place. Which it may be. I believe it's wrong, but I am not (like you do) claiming to know for a fact that it is wrong. You can keep the dogmatism.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
You "know", unless you're wrong. If you try to dispute this, I don't know what else to say.
A different interpretation of that method of testing spirits is pointless, if it is wrong in the first place. Which it may be. I believe it's wrong, but I am not (like you do) claiming to know for a fact that it is wrong. You can keep the dogmatism.
Well, please trust that I could not bring you this from dogmatism; where is the sermon? This is a completely abstract thing, to most Christians. Life tells us that we can be fooled by bad choices. The Bible tells us we can be fooled by spirits. All the things I "know," without possibility of reconsideration, make a very small pile, and dogma for me mostly represents the pile that must be sorted out.
So you might agree it's pretty tough to even establish what the dogma is, here? However, we are beginning from different premises as long as you think that the Bible is wrong. It may be mistranslated, or misinterpreted, however, by anyone.
I only claim to know this is true for a fact because my experience has convinced me; when I expected that voice to say otherwise! I remember this being a unique experience in my mind at the time, the first time I had mentally disagreed with...myself? in the manner described. I honestly don't think now that most Christians have even experienced it. It is when I became aware that although I had free will, it was mute, and that those thoughts were not me, until I had "taken them in." The first time this occurred, it was literally hair-raising.
Not trying to make a comparison, but I could tell you all day that I can walk on water, and if you do not accept that you can walk on water, this truth will be useless for you.
The things which glorify God are of God, the things which glorify self or mankind are of the flesh and are earthly, not to say that the things of the flesh are all bad in doing good, but the spirit leads in all things to bring glory to the kingdom of our Lord Jesus.
That is why the Bible says in all that you do, do it unto the Lord.
See, I have a confession. I backslid last year, but so did two other people. I did for these reasons --
First reason: http://theosophical.wordpress.com/20...wer-for-doubt/
Second reason: There's no one my age in the denominational church that I went to.
Third: If I can't help in bringing others to Christ, what good am I?
I've had thoughts such as "If you come to me, I will __________________."
Or "You could save many." < But I dunno if those were my own.. or God speaking?
1.) They are thoughts. 2.) If they are mine or not, thoughts pop up in your head either way.
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"Did God intend to treat the early church different than the latter church? Did He have two programs for the church? Are people being saved in a different way today than they were in the Bible? Are there two forms of Christianity: first-century, and every century after that? No." - Jason Dulle
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See, I have a confession. I backslid last year, but so did two other people. I did for these reasons --
First reason: http://theosophical.wordpress.com/20...wer-for-doubt/
Second reason: There's no one my age in the denominational church that I went to.
Third: If I can't help in bringing others to Christ, what good am I?
I've had thoughts such as "If you come to me, I will __________________."
Or "You could save many." < But I dunno if those were my own.. or God's?
1.) They are thoughts. 2.) If they are mine or not, thoughts pop up in your head either way.
If you have reasonable doubt that these were your own thoughts, and if you feel these thoughts could further the kingdom, they probably are God.
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1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
If you have reasonable doubt that these were your own thoughts, and if you feel these thoughts could further the kingdom, they probably are God.
Right, I mean, who doubts their own thoughts? lol!
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"Did God intend to treat the early church different than the latter church? Did He have two programs for the church? Are people being saved in a different way today than they were in the Bible? Are there two forms of Christianity: first-century, and every century after that? No." - Jason Dulle
Me. I learned to when a spirit of perversion was planting thoughts into my head that weren't mine. And get this...God had to let this spirit attack me, for me to begin to believe in him again.
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1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.
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