Apology - Page 6

Sherri · #51 12-19-2011, 01:55 PM

Good grief - the whole thing comes down to modesty, not sleeve or hem length. I have my limits personally, and we definitely have regulations for people in ministry positions on any given service time. But to say short sleeves reveal a woman's breasts???? That's just hilarious. If I had on a pair of short sleeves that were loose enough to see up them, I would wear a cami underneath. It's pretty easy. You either want people to see your "under-parts" or you don't. I DON'T. Therefore I dress modestly.

(By the way, I dare you to say you can see anything ungodly in the avatar picture here.) Short sleeves that fit my arm - no peeking inside the shirt possible.)

And for the record, I've seen women at General Conference wearing stuff so tight, I would be embarrassed to be seen in it and it was considered "holy". Go figure.

The Lemon · #52 12-19-2011, 02:26 PM

How incredibly irritating this thread has become! It is ashame when there can be 6pgs, most of which are arguments either for or against sleeve length and hem length..good grief! This is just ridiculous, and that is not including the remark about a delusion...the more I have lived in OP I can't help but think that alot of us have an extemely distorted view of God.

Listening to some folks, you would think that God is this supernatural bully who enjoys destroying lives and watching them squirm...no wonder alot of our churches never grow, who wants to be beaten down and judged...especially over sleeves...ugh!

I heard it said in the UPC that our "Dress Standards" are not UPC culture but Biblical culture...where did they come up with that?? It sure did'nt come from scripture.

BeenThinkin · #53 12-19-2011, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay

I am going to be draw a bit of a line here, and I know tha many will not like it. The Bible commands modesty in our apparell and bans jewelry in the New Testament. That being said, modesty dictates that our private parts be covered safely beyond all revealing, women and men not wearing the apparel of the opposite gender, cover the breasts above, and the thigh below. Which means that by and large, sleeves should be around the elbows at the shortest, and all garments well below the knee (Wrists and ankles seem to be the safest places to mandate, but I am not the one who wrote the book.)

Jay...where is the scripture, in the New Testament, that BANS jewelry? And would you please list, from the New Testament, (as you said,) the scriptures that define modesty. The "most modesty women," according to your definitions of modesty, would surely have to be the muslim women! And I believe that you said in another post that we had to not look like the world in "all things." Now if you are a male, and I'm judging by your name that you are, please tell me how you look different from the other males walking down the street. The truth is, in most cases, you look just like the biggest MALE SINNER on the street. You better make some changes if you don't want to look like the MALE SINNER!

I just took out the last paragraph I wrote on this post! If you read it forgive me for being too blunt. If you didn't read it you'll just have to guess!
Been Thinkin

Scott Hutchinson · #54 12-19-2011, 03:11 PM

The world is lost and bound by the devil and Christians argue over sleeve length.
The teaches modesty for both men and women,and how many NT.scriptures mention clothing ? So I gather the NT. church made it sermon topics,I gather.
Whatever happened to preaching the gospel to lost,preaching deliverance to those who are demonized and seeing the sick healed ?

AreYouReady? · #55 12-19-2011, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Amanah

one may be looking to closely in fact lol

I'm having flash backs of the guy whose wife wore her sleeves to her wrists and her dressed several inches below her knees and her dumb OP husband was fired from his job for looking at porn on company internet.

Well...well...well...maybe if the guy seen some skin on his own wife he wouldn't be looking at other women on the net?

In all my years in the OP church, I've noticed that the men who leave their wives always go for the chicks who cut their hair, wear makeup and jewelry and wear pants. Why is that?

AreYouReady? · #56 12-19-2011, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

The world is lost and bound by the devil and Christians argue over sleeve length.
The teaches modesty for both men and women,and how many NT.scriptures mention clothing ? So I gather the NT. church made it sermon topics,I gather.
Whatever happened to preaching the gospel to lost,preaching deliverance to those who are demonized and seeing the sick healed ?

You got that right Brother Scott. There are so many other issues plaguing this planet that sleeve and hem length seem so trivial.

AncientPaths · #57 12-19-2011, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

In all my years in the OP church, I've noticed that the men who leave their wives always go for the chicks who cut their hair, wear makeup and jewelry and wear pants. Why is that?

Larger pond maybe?

Sam · #58 12-20-2011, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sherri

You know what? I'm sure you meant well - I used to feel just like you. But it just gets old that when you leave UPC because you feel like God is leading you somewhere else, you suddenly become an evil backslider. We left 20 years ago and we still baptize in Jesus' name and see hundreds filled with the Holy Ghost. We love God and are in the center of His will. We are not crazy, easy-greasy grace people. We are conservative, holiness believing Holy Ghost filled Christians. Just because our idea of holiness isn't exactly like yours doesn't mean it's not of God.

I hope that doesn't sound mean - I didn't intend for it to.

Sam · #59 12-20-2011, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

The world is lost and bound by the devil and Christians argue over sleeve length.
The teaches modesty for both men and women,and how many NT.scriptures mention clothing ? So I gather the NT. church made it sermon topics,I gather.
Whatever happened to preaching the gospel to lost,preaching deliverance to those who are demonized and seeing the sick healed ?

We have majored on minors

hometown guy · #60 12-20-2011, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Well...well...well...maybe if the guy seen some skin on his own wife he wouldn't be looking at other women on the net?

In all my years in the OP church, I've noticed that the men who leave their wives always go for the chicks who cut their hair, wear makeup and jewelry and wear pants. Why is that?

Intresting......"chicks who cut their hair, wear makeup, and pants"..... I'm glad most women that are holding up on to holiness are not acting like those harlots............ By your observation it seems like it would be a good idea for wives not to cut their hair, wear makup or pants... There must be a spirit or something attached to that stuff....