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Old 11-15-2011, 06:07 PM
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Dexter who ?
It's just a show.
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Old 11-15-2011, 09:07 PM
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Ok a Minister who HAS committed adultery can be restored to the ministry. What about a Minister who was faithful and has NOT committed adultery or fornication who has had two women commit adultery against him? Now he has been married to a woman who has been faithful to him for 15 years. Is he out of the Ministry for good and the one who committed adultery is still in the Ministry?
I know this doesn't answer your question but I wanted to comment that this minister is either the unluckiest guy in the world or a terrible judge of character!
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Old 11-16-2011, 10:09 AM
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Just a show? Just a show?? Is Leonardo da Vinci just an artist?
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I know this doesn't answer your question but I wanted to comment that this minister is either the unluckiest guy in the world or a terrible judge of character!
I doubt this situation is all that uncommon.
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I doubt this situation is all that uncommon.
Do you really think it is common for a preacher to pick two women for wives who both end up committing adultery????? I stand by my statement that he is either extremely unlucky or an extremely bad judge of character.
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"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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Old 11-16-2011, 11:14 PM
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Re: Ministers in Adultery

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Restoration to a place of ministry?

What about having an affair over the Internet? Is that adultery?

After you've answered these question tell me why these particular men become so cruel and mean spirited and arrogant and pompous? Is the idea that what doesn't kill me on makes me stronger, carried over into the idea of moral failure?

Its as though they are waving in your face that their adulteress past will never stop henceforth neither will anything else.

Restoration? A license to shed more blood?



I am convinced that God will warn that there is danger of him committing adultery. If he does not heed that warning, God will warn him through the preaching of the Word. If he still will not repent, then God will expose his sin openly and he is thereafter disqualified from being a pastor, deacon, or elder. He may rise to a position in the church, but according Paul's writings to Timothy and Titus, he is disqualified from the ministry and church leadership positions. This may be a hard view, but Paul was specific about the ministry being able to have a good reputation among both the brethren and the outside community. This can not be done if there is an affair that is known about.
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:26 AM
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Do you really think it is common for a preacher to pick two women for wives who both end up committing adultery????? I stand by my statement that he is either extremely unlucky or an extremely bad judge of character.
"Not all that uncommon" doesn't mean "common".

"Unluckiest guy in the world" implies it has only happened once, though I understand it was (probably) hyperbolic.
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"Not all that uncommon" doesn't mean "common".

"Unluckiest guy in the world" implies it has only happened once, though I understand it was (probably) hyperbolic.
My advice to this guy would be in the future whenever he thinks he has found his next wife he should run! Obviously he is not a good judge of character or else living with him is so horrible he drives good women to have affairs.
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"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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Re: Ministers in Adultery

I love it when their time of restoration includes living with the new woman, then when they're restored, they move back in with their original wife and start a new charismatic church (b/c being liberated in one way liberates in every way apparently) in the same town as the church they just left, and email all the old members to come join them
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Old 11-17-2011, 04:54 PM
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Some of them have a tendency to cheat with men and then do the same thing. Gross (lip curled in revulsion). Thinking Ted Haggard here.
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