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09-27-2011, 12:23 PM
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Re: Why I Left the UPC
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The Haddedik(sp?) Jews have beards they don't trim theirs. Since Elder Blume is appealing to Jewish custom he might have to let his grow?  |
Are you saying Jewish tradition is sinful? You are really going to ridiculous lengths to adhere to your man made tradition of 50 years ago.
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09-27-2011, 12:24 PM
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Re: Why I Left the UPC
this is to funny, good chess game though guys
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09-27-2011, 12:24 PM
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Re: Why I Left the UPC
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I am consistant IF a man has a beard he cannot trim it. You advocate wearing a beard but violate the commandment not to trim it. Thus you are not in the tradition of the Jews you quote.
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So, would you allow a man in your church to have a beard and never trim it? Having a beard is a far cry from trimming it or not trimming it.
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09-27-2011, 12:26 PM
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Re: Why I Left the UPC
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this is to funny, good chess game though guys
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I am amazed at how much an extent people will go to hold onto a tradition of the world from the 60's and yet make silly claims of what the bible said about Jesus. Himself wearing a beard! It's like the NO-JEWELRY stance when Ezekiel 16 said GOD gave jewelry to His lady in a figurative manner. God would give NOTHING, whether figuratively or not, if it was closely RELATED to anything we should not do naturally. You should hear the arguments that deal with that from these guys. WOW. Just as silly!
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09-27-2011, 12:28 PM
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Re: Why I Left the UPC
I would resist a requirement to have a beard just as strongly as a prohibition against having one.
We are FREE IN CHRIST.
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09-27-2011, 12:29 PM
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Re: Why I Left the UPC
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I would resist a requirement to have a beard just as strongly as a prohibition against having one.
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Amen. It's a silly issue to demand one way or another. Utterly silly and catering more to man-made traditions than to the Word of God. That is what scares me the most. It makes void the word of God by tradition.
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09-27-2011, 12:30 PM
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Re: Why I Left the UPC
I wonder if any of this is changing Charnock's mind about his decision to leave the UPC
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09-27-2011, 12:32 PM
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Re: Why I Left the UPC
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So, would you allow a man in your church to have a beard and never trim it? Having a beard is a far cry from trimming it or not trimming it.
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Elder Blume it is YOU not I who appealed to Jewish custom to defend wearing your beard since it was YOU then YOU must abide by the restriction given by Moses. NO Trimming.
I did NOT appeal to Jewish custom my stand has NOTHING to do with Jewish custom I agree they wore UNTRIMMED beards. But here at Racine Apostolic Jews with UNTRIMMED beards and worldly Charismatics with TRIMMED beards have to shave.
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09-27-2011, 12:32 PM
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Re: Why I Left the UPC
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I wonder if any of this is changing Charnock's mind about his decision to leave the UPC
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It shouldn't (or maybe I should say it should?).
The ones arguing the most are non UPC.
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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09-27-2011, 12:34 PM
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Re: Why I Left the UPC
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I am amazed at how much an extent people will go to hold onto a tradition of the world from the 60's and yet make silly claims of what the bible said about Jesus. Himself wearing a beard! It's like the NO-JEWELRY stance when Ezekiel 16 said GOD gave jewelry to His lady in a figurative manner. God would give NOTHING, whether figuratively or not, if it was closely RELATED to anything we should not do naturally. You should hear the arguments that deal with that from these guys. WOW. Just as silly! |
Changing subjects. Lose one point flee to another. I got you boxed in and I am not moving. For you to be consistent you must stop trimming your beard. We will see if your wife likes that? 
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