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08-27-2011, 11:48 PM
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Re: Crossdressing...Just how does a woman particip
ROFLOL... LOL... LULZ... ahem.
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08-27-2011, 11:52 PM
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Re: Crossdressing...Just how does a woman particip
mike blume,
is the word GEBER?
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08-27-2011, 11:53 PM
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Re: Crossdressing...Just how does a woman particip
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If it's a "spiritual" application then it has nothing to do with how he wears his clothing
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He is confusing his thoughts with wrong words, and trying to say that girding loins to divide the legs freely from an encumbering garment, like pants accomplish, is associated with men and not women. But he flubbed big-time trying to say that by saying it is a "SPIRITUAL" application. It's not spiritual. But that sort of confusion with terms is exactly why such people confuse entire biblical statements and verses into the silly traditions they hold. WORDS are problems to them. The fact is the passage is speaking of WARRIOR-LIKE situations, where girding up loins was common to warriors ready to FIGHT, not simply the silly idea of men ready to walk around in public. lol
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08-27-2011, 11:54 PM
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Re: Crossdressing...Just how does a woman particip
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If it's a "spiritual" application then it has nothing to do with how he wears his clothing
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You highlighted the wrong portion, read the end of that post. Within the application we see how the Lord wants a man is to wear his garment. "LIKE A MAN" not like some men, like a man.
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08-27-2011, 11:55 PM
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Re: Crossdressing...Just how does a woman particip
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mike blume,
is the word GEBER?
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Yes.
H1397
גּבר
geber
gheh'-ber
From H1396; properly a valiant man or warrior; generally a person simply: - every one, man, X mighty.
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08-27-2011, 11:56 PM
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Re: Crossdressing...Just how does a woman particip
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You highlighted the wrong portion, read the end of that post. Within the application we see how the Lord wants a man is to wear his garment. "LIKE A MAN" not like some men, like a man.
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Like a warrior ready for battle. That is why GIRDING LOINS is associated with warriors because it is a readying to meet God's challenge of a demand.
Job 38:3 KJV Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.
Saying it is the concept of simply dressing like a man is silly and misses the whole point.
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08-27-2011, 11:57 PM
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Re: Crossdressing...Just how does a woman particip
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You highlighted the wrong portion, read the end of that post. Within the application we see how the Lord wants a man is to wear his garment. "LIKE A MAN" not like some men, like a man.
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This is the reason I would prefer that the apo movement would remain in the back woods.
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08-27-2011, 11:58 PM
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Re: Crossdressing...Just how does a woman particip
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You highlighted the wrong portion, read the end of that post. Within the application we see how the Lord wants a man is to wear his garment. "LIKE A MAN" not like some men, like a man.
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I highlighted the wrong portion? Yes I read the end. The point is what you posted was self contradicory.
God did not want a man to "gird their loins". He was telling someone, Job, to gird his loins like a man. It was not a law or commandment in Deut or Numbers. Girding Loins was something done when someone was going to be working or fighting or running, because they wore long robe like garments
4 tn Heb "Gird up your loins." This idiom basically describes taking the hem of the long garment or robe and pulling it up between the legs and tucking it into the front of the belt, allowing easier and freer movement of the legs. "Girding the loins" meant the preparation for some difficult task (Jer_1:17), or for battle (Isa_5:27), or for running (1Ki_18:46). C. Gordon suggests that it includes belt-wrestling, a form of hand-to-hand mortal combat (see HUCA 23 [1950/51]: 136)
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08-28-2011, 12:01 AM
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Re: Crossdressing...Just how does a woman particip
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He is confusing his thoughts with wrong words, and trying to say that girding loins to divide the legs freely from an encumbering garment, like pants accomplish, is associated with men and not women. But he flubbed big-time trying to say that by saying it is a "SPIRITUAL" application. It's not spiritual. But that sort of confusion with terms is exactly why such people confuse entire biblical statements and verses into the silly traditions they hold. WORDS are problems to them. The fact is the passage is speaking of WARRIOR-LIKE situations, where girding up loins was common to warriors ready to FIGHT, not simply the silly idea of men ready to walk around in public. lol
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I would say that A Christian man is a Valiant and Warrior like Man.
We aren't just men. That's the problem with your logic.
We are in the fight of our life. Our soul.
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08-28-2011, 12:03 AM
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Re: Crossdressing...Just how does a woman particip
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I would say that A Christian man is a Valiant and Warrior like Man.
We aren't just men. That's the problem with your logic.
We are in the fight of our life. Our soul.
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Oh, and women aren't in the fight of their lives? Their souls? Problem with MY logic? You are making things up as you go along. lol.
So, according to you, men are in salvation because they are FIGHTING, while women have nothing to do with FIGHTING the fight of faith. Women do not have to fight for their souls, for it's only the fight of MEN'S LIVES/SOULS. No wonder you believe what you do.
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