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Old 03-01-2011, 11:52 AM
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Trial and affliction can bring about a sense of doom. Many in this Country and around the World have been financially challenged.

During the Great Depression (Pun is intended), our World hurled into a very foreboding state of mind.

When you add in the tension of the Middle East and other crisis’ of the World, we ALL feel a sense of helplessness.

I personally feel, this is an excellent time to draw nigh to God. When a bank account runs dry, or the things of this World are lost, our trust can move to a higher ground with the Master of all ages.

I’m watching birds in my back yard right now, and the Scripture comes to mind; Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?



I was out feeding the wild bunnies this morning. I always think of the Scripture you have referred to here on my morning rounds.
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As Christians, should we have "dread"? I understand concern, but if we dread are we trusting God?
When I read the OP, my thought was on Acts 18:5, "...pressed in the spirit".

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Gill: Arabic version renders it, "grief beset the spirit of Paul"; his soul was filled with trouble and sorrow,
I think we have had burdens come upon us and felt "pressed in the spirit". Later stories have been told that at that very hour, God performed a miracle and the person with the burden and prayer understood it was the exact time they were burdened.
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Old 03-01-2011, 12:47 PM
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As Christians, should we have "dread"? I understand concern, but if we dread are we trusting God?


Holy smoke, I can't believe it, I'm coming to Apprehended's defense!!

I think "dread" is not a sign of not trusting God and I think "dread" is different from worry. If APP has knowledge of some sort that something like 9-11 is around the corner, doesn't he have the right to "dread" that? I would think we all should "dread" it! 3,000 lives were lost and if something like that were around the corner? Well, if we don't "dread" it, something's wrong with us.

That being said, I'm not crazy about the doom-and-gloom, fear-provoking context of all this.
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Old 03-01-2011, 01:00 PM
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Holy smoke, I can't believe it, I'm coming to Apprehended's defense!!

I think "dread" is not a sign of not trusting God and I think "dread" is different from worry. If APP has knowledge of some sort that something like 9-11 is around the corner, doesn't he have the right to "dread" that? I would think we all should "dread" it! 3,000 lives were lost and if something like that were around the corner? Well, if we don't "dread" it, something's wrong with us.

That being said, I'm not crazy about the doom-and-gloom, fear-provoking context of all this.
if we are going to go strictly by a natural view of the world we live in, and not make it some kind of prophetic god-prediction game, then I dont see how anyone would not have a sense of dred about right now.

the middle east is on fire, Iran has nukes (or will have shortly and we arent going to do anything about it) Egypt could very well renig on their peace treaty with Israel.

the financial markets are still messed up. America is spending more than it can afford with no real end in sight. We are in hock up to our eyeballs to China. China is getting more agressive.

All you have to do is look at the news and you should have some sense of dred.

It is purely natural. and real. But God hath not given us the spirit of fear. Should we have dred? There is no way to avoid it. And we should turn to God to be our answer and protector.

My only issues is when people start "spritualizing" natural things. When they start making future-predictions and call it prophecy. It aint. at best it is bad pizza too late at night. At worst it is another spirit that is not God and these folk dont even know it.
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Old 03-01-2011, 01:30 PM
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Yes, I have been feeling it. I did not feel it before 9/11, however.
I had hoped that it was just me alone.

I believe that God speaks to everyone at the time of impending danger whether they are in tune with him or not. The idea that God spoke to everyone in in the twin towers 9-11 before they fell may not be believed by many skeptics. I personally believe that God spoke to everyone in some fashion. Many did not hear. Many others that did hear could not account for their thoughts or their feelings.

My daughter has a Catholic Brother in Law that had an office in one of the twin towers. He worked for Arthur Anderson accounting firm. He never, absolutely never missed a day of work. On 9=11 he woke up with a heaviness which disturbed his mind. He lives on Long Island but felt that he could work at home on his computer rather than going into the office. As he watched the towers fall on t.v., though a Catholic, he understood why he felt not to go to work. From the floors where some jumped to their death rather to have been burned alive, he too might have been one of them. On 9-11 some heard though they did not know what. No doubt some over rode their sense of dread or horror and went on as though nothing was wrong. Others, like my daugther's BIL heard though he could not account for it and was spared.

God speaks but we do not always understand the burden that we feel. We can only take it to him and leave it there...trusting and never doubting.
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Bro. Apprehended,
Sat., Feb. 26, 2011, I had a foreboding feeling and prayed off and on all day.
I kept a low profile, spending most of the day alone endeavoring to be sensitive
to the Spirit! I had not felt that way in a long time! God knows what it was about!


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I have since learned that my husband's first cousin (who we knew was in the hospital), was not
expected to live through the night, Friday night. This email came from her brother this morning.

"Becky continues to be in critical condition. However, her condition has improved since Friday
and Saturday. Her Ph and CO2 levels are back in the normal range. Her Sodium level has risen and
almost normal".


For whatever reason, the foreboding feeling got my attention!

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One more thing.

I am confident that trouble is on the horizon.

I am confident in this because we are currently coming out of trouble... sort of... As per the rule of human history, you are either in trouble, coming out of trouble or headed into trouble.

In other news, we are the Children of the Most High and we have the answer to what ails a sick and dying world. Trouble is our opurtunity to spread the Good News.

Dread all you like. I am just happy to be here....
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if we are going to go strictly by a natural view of the world we live in, and not make it some kind of prophetic god-prediction game, then I dont see how anyone would not have a sense of dred about right now.

the middle east is on fire, Iran has nukes (or will have shortly and we arent going to do anything about it) Egypt could very well renig on their peace treaty with Israel.

the financial markets are still messed up. America is spending more than it can afford with no real end in sight. We are in hock up to our eyeballs to China. China is getting more agressive.

All you have to do is look at the news and you should have some sense of dred.

It is purely natural. and real. But God hath not given us the spirit of fear. Should we have dred? There is no way to avoid it. And we should turn to God to be our answer and protector.

My only issues is when people start "spritualizing" natural things. When they start making future-predictions and call it prophecy. It aint. at best it is bad pizza too late at night. At worst it is another spirit that is not God and these folk dont even know it.

I completely agree with you. I guess I'm just taking App's "Dread" is the harmful impact it will have a certain individuals and certain human lives. I think that kind of dread is ok.

However.....I also think his "dread" is more for himself and not necessarily for all or any of us. He feels something, so he feels something. For me, the only thing he should do with this is pray over it and not necessarily come on here and freak some people out....and this kind of thing always does.

I'll tell you this, though, if anyone thinks that 9-11 was the last time something like that happens in America, or that it's the worst thing that will ever happen, they're totally wrong. It's only a matter of time....in my opinion.
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I see the headlines and the unrest around the world and for some reason my being is flooded with excitement.
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