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02-08-2011, 06:46 PM
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Re: Faith Without Works...
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NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Don't even put it out there. AWFUL!  |
It's not awful! I love that song! 
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02-08-2011, 06:47 PM
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Re: Faith Without Works...
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02-08-2011, 06:52 PM
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Re: Faith Without Works...
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I'm heading to the car, going to pop in my Rich Mullins cd!
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02-08-2011, 06:54 PM
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Re: Faith Without Works...
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I'm heading to the car, going to pop in my Rich Mullins cd!
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Always had a hard time understanding the whole "when he rolled up his sleeves" part of "Awesome God!"
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02-08-2011, 07:43 PM
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Re: Faith Without Works...
Good grief.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
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02-08-2011, 08:19 PM
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Re: Faith Without Works...
Abraham would have never offered Isaac if he had dead faith. This shows us that even before Abraham offered Isaac that he had living faith. However, before he offered Isaac he had no works that he could use to show/prove his faith. So while "faith without works is dead", the phrase has a very strict meaning in that just because a person hasn't produced works yet it doesn't mean they don't have living faith. For if Abraham is an example then he clearly had living faith before any of his works.
Thus I conclude that lack of works right now does not reveal a dead faith but only a complacency that if sustained will result in revealing the dead nature of a person's faith. However, it only takes a single work to show your faith is still alive 
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02-08-2011, 08:31 PM
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Re: Faith Without Works...
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Abraham would have never offered Isaac if he had dead faith. This shows us that even before Abraham offered Isaac that he had living faith. However, before he offered Isaac he had no works that he could use to show/prove his faith.
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Also see Gen. 26:1-6
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02-08-2011, 08:37 PM
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Re: Faith Without Works...
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Always had a hard time understanding the whole "when he rolled up his sleeves" part of "Awesome God!"
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Oh, my, I never thought about it before but there are people who would be offended at the thought of God rolling up His sleeves! 
Rich Mullins apparently did not think Awesome God was one of his better songs. I assume, though, that "roll up His sleeves" referred to going to work, perhaps in creation. "When He rolls up His sleeves He ain't just puttin' on the ritz" would mean when He does something, it's not just for show, there's a purpose in everything He does.
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02-08-2011, 08:38 PM
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Re: Faith Without Works...
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I added a great deal since then. I was hoping no one quoted me before I did but i guess i just added way to slow.
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02-08-2011, 08:43 PM
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Re: Faith Without Works...
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Originally Posted by jfrog
Abraham would have never offered Isaac if he had dead faith. This shows us that even before Abraham offered Isaac that he had living faith. However, before he offered Isaac he had no works that he could use to show/prove his faith. So while "faith without works is dead", the phrase has a very strict meaning in that just because a person hasn't produced works yet it doesn't mean they don't have living faith. For if Abraham is an example then he clearly had living faith before any of his works.
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What we make of the Bible will never be as great a thing as what the Bible will - if we let it - make of us.~Rich Mullins
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.~Galileo Galilei
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