Was Dr Laura Schlessinger treated fairly?

[canam]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

This is the predictable response of a less than half-witted demagogue who can't think of anything better to say. My absence from the radio profession does not invalidate my opinions. I have an opinion. Deal with it.

Dr Laura had an opinion too.Too bad everyone else cant just deal with it.

[canam]

Cracker,Cracker ,Cracker, Ok, Lets see some outrage !

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by pelathais

I agree with you - and not with D4T on this one. I use "redneck" playfully. Would "redneck" be more akin to some one saying "ghetto" in the way that word is used?

I always thought that the African Americans who used the "n- word" did so to try and wear down some of the hateful aspects of the word, king of like the way "Jan Kaas" ("John Cheese" - as in "You cheese eating Dutch !#@#%!!") was won over by the Dutch and eventually became "Yankees."

If that is the case, how "black" does one have to be to use the "n- word?" Laura Sclessinger is obviously "Too white." Maybe we can use her as an extreme. On the other end? Serena Williams is fairly "dark" - so can she freely use the "n-word?" So, can someone "in between" like George Clooney (who's fairly dark for a "white") or Halle Berry (who is about as dark as Clooney) use the "n word?"

There's an interesting discussion here: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m.../ai_n26712135/

I know what it's like to be harassed as a kid because of the color of your skin... and I'm a "redneck." Like I said before, "color" is nonsense. Ultimately, most of the arguments about "color" end up in nonsense - from all sides and in all colors.

hmm... that opener sounded like I'm dissing D4T. Sorry, Bro. Didn't mean for it to be quite that strong.

[drummerboy_dave]

Originally Posted by canam

Dr Laura had an opinion too.Too bad everyone else cant just deal with it.

Hmmmm.... my less that half-witted mind, tells me that that's just not gonna happen.

[MissBrattified]

I like Dr. Laura, and I would call her "abrasive" rather than abusive. She likes to get straight to the point and gets very impatient with irrelevant conversation.

As for the comments in question--she was being abrasive as usual, but she didn't use the "n" word TOWARD anyone. She said that all you hear on HBO is "n, n, n." In my opinion, the caller was deliberately provocative and immediately tried to twist her comments into racism. Dr. Laura responded with a predictably stubborn repeat of her original statement.

As usual, the response to her comments is skewed because she's a conservative. If Jesse Jackson or Oprah had made such a comment, no one would have noticed. Oprah did a whole show about the use of the "n" word in rap/hip-hop music, and references were sprinkled throughout the show. Again, like Dr. Laura, no one was using the word TOWARD anyone, but referencing its USE in lyrics, etc.

Dr. Laura does not deserve to be maligned over her comments, but the media isn't concerned with fair treatment. They're just concerned with making sure that black voters think that all conservatives are racists. She's the latest patsy on display.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Maximilian

I don't know, didn't Howard Stern run into similar issues?

If she's a hot commodity in the market, she'll earn more money and have the same audience when she switches formats.

Your point about GM -- is the government really "calling the shots?" Really?

Oh yeah. Just look at how GM and Saab are intertwined into a monumental UN dominated global car maker. The effects on our freedoms should be chilling to everyone. You know BHO is "in bed" with the Trilaterals and is just itching to sell us out to the secret global elites.

The new 2011 Escalade seems to have escaped their world domineering scheme, however. Except for the fact that you would need a government bail out to afford one.

http://www.automobile.com/2011-cadil...de-review.html

"Government control" doesn't have to equate to "calling the shots," at least not on a one-to-one level. GE also has a huge government ownership and though the Feds don't overtly "call the shots," GE's news divisions (MSNBC, NBC, CNBC, etc) have sat on stories and angled their "reporting" to support the party that currently controls our lives and has done so for most of the past 80 years.

After GE received their $140 billion bailout, MSNBC's Chris Matthews said, "It is my job to make the Obama presidency a success!"

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-fi...idency-success

Maybe the government didn't come right out and "call the shots" but $140 billion dollars of taxpayer money did.

With regard to GM, they're in a mess because of the unbridled greed of the unions. Most of the manufacturing has been driven out of the country or into the South. The unions have been an extension of the DNC for over 80 years now. With the current arrangement, the DNC has now moved itself into the corporate headquarters as well.

The ramifications of this are discussed in this 2009 WSJ article: http://online.wsj.com/article/NA_WSJ...542061821.html

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

This is the predictable response of a less than half-witted demagogue who can't think of anything better to say. My absence from the radio profession does not invalidate my opinions. I have an opinion. Deal with it.

Yeah, but from the looks of your avatar it's probably best that your "radio show" died out at about the same time as disco.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Twisp

Perhaps because conservatives are the one that use that word more than their liberal counterparts? I can't think of too many cases where a liberal politician/media figure used that word. Harry Reid saying negro is the closest I can remember.

As far as The Sopranos, they definitely used that word, along with a host of other racial epitaphs. Perhaps GM thought it was in an artistic format and decided to not pull their products from that show. Not sure.

I'd say that GM, along with most other sponsors, makes these kind of decisions based on protecting their brand and revenue stream, rather than doing it to attack liberals.

? You meant "conservatives," right.

And I have not heard any prominent conservatives using the "n word." From the transcript it seems that Schlessinger may have run afoul in a fashion similar to Kramer. However, whereas Kramer was trying to be "ironic" and "really out there," Schlessinger seems to have been angry about the fact that "the Sopranos" were given more leeway than her caller was giving either her or the caller's husband.

There certainly has not been any conservative of the stature of the Dems' Harry Reid who has said anything like this. And you know, if Harry Reid had been a Republican he would probably have been forced to resign. There is clearly a double standard.

Liberals are given "artistic license." Conservatives, who don't even use the word - like the Tea Party flap on this issue - are bashed immediately as "racists." Race keeps being used as a tool by the Left to keep black voters in line. Many African Americans have awakened to this fact only to be vilified as "Uncle Toms" by other blacks and the whites who control the DNC.

[Maximilian]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I like Dr. Laura, and I would call her "abrasive" rather than abusive. She likes to get straight to the point and gets very impatient with irrelevant conversation.

As for the comments in question--she was being abrasive as usual, but she didn't use the "n" word TOWARD anyone. She said that all you hear on HBO is "n, n, n." In my opinion, the caller was deliberately provocative and immediately tried to twist her comments into racism. Dr. Laura responded with a predictably stubborn repeat of her original statement.

As usual, the response to her comments is skewed because she's a conservative. If Jesse Jackson or Oprah had made such a comment, no one would have noticed. Oprah did a whole show about the use of the "n" word in rap/hip-hop music, and references were sprinkled throughout the show. Again, like Dr. Laura, no one was using the word TOWARD anyone, but referencing its USE in lyrics, etc.

Dr. Laura does not deserve to be maligned over her comments, but the media isn't concerned with fair treatment. They're just concerned with making sure that black voters think that all conservatives are racists. She's the latest patsy on display.

Jesse Jackson and Oprah have more in contrast with Dr. Laura than not being conservative -- probably the most relevant is that they are black?

If I'm not mistaken a Democratic congressman and even the Majority Leader caught flack for "racial" remarks recently.

I will agree that the criticism seems sometimes much more vile toward conservatives, as they are suspected of being the rich, racist, white party.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Maximilian

Jesse Jackson and Oprah have more in contrast with Dr. Laura than not being conservative -- probably the most relevant is that they are black?

Seriously, what does that have to do with anything? Honestly and with complete naivete, what does "being black" have to do with anything? As I said before, George Clooney and Halle Berry are both "black." They are aren't they?

Can Maria Carey "break it down" and do a funky rap using all the gangsta words including the "n word?" Is she "black enough?" Is she even black at all?

My whole life has been spent around folks that are "kind of this" or "sort of that." Kids I went to school with thought my dad was a "Mexican." "So what's with you 'white' name?" I was asked. Then in gym they'd tease me for being "too white."

What's "black enough" and what's "too white" to use the "n word?" Draw a line for us.

Originally Posted by Maximilian

If I'm not mistaken a Democratic congressman and even the Majority Leader caught flack for "racial" remarks recently.

I will agree that the criticism seems sometimes much more vile toward conservatives, as they are suspected of being the rich, racist, white party.

You're probably thinking Harry Reid. If it had been a Republican who said that he would be out of office by now. Look at Trent Lott's treatment. The Republicans ran him out of town themselves. The Dems? They thrive in an atmosphere of racial hate, fear and suspicion. Harry got hardly a hand slap.

(Gotta step away and do some "work" - I'll be back).