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View Poll Results: Can someone be Apostolic and deny Christ is God?
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Then you heard/learned the Trinity incorrectly. If the Son is not yahweh then the Son is not God
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The bible says the blood of those animals were never sufficient enough, read Hebrews
I read Hebrews. The OT seems to contradict it, but I bet you can explain how it doesn't.
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They do? Trinitarians believe Jesus is YHWH?
The problem is they believe he is ANOTHER YHWH. Another separate and distinct YHWH.
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I read Hebrews. The OT seems to contradict it, but I bet you can explain how it doesn't.
please show the contradiction
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The problem is they believe he is ANOTHER YHWH. Another separate and distinct YHWH.
Why do you bother with this? You imply they believe in two Yahwehs... Two Gods.

As if the doctrine of the Trinity is not difficult enough, we add unwarranted accusation with statements like this. Why?
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please show the contradiction
2 Chronicles 29:23-24

23And they brought forth the he goats for the sin offering before the king and the congregation; and they laid their hands upon them:

24And the priests killed them, and they made reconciliation with their blood upon the altar, to make an atonement for all Israel: for the king commanded that the burnt offering and the sin offering should be made for all Israel.
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waiting for the contradiction
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Re: Can Someone be "Apostolic" and Deny Christ is

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Why do you bother with this? You imply they believe in two Yahwehs... Two Gods.

As if the doctrine of the Trinity is not difficult enough, we add unwarranted accusation with statements like this. Why?
What are you kidding? Have you never discussed the Trinity with a Trinitarian? Or read any of the many thousands of statement of faiths on their web sites? To them Jesus is a separate and distinct person of YHWH. If I had time I could begin copying and pasting multitudes of such statements here.
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Re: Can Someone be "Apostolic" and Deny Christ is

We have been here before... but no, I have never seen a Trinitarian confession of faith affirming two Gods.
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waiting for the contradiction
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