***Districts begin to enforce Bernard Doctrine *** - Page 6

Michael Phelps · #51 03-10-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I had to read this twice!

Hard to believe, huh?

I'm a kinder, gentler Mike.

Pressing-On · #52 03-10-2010, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Hard to believe, huh?

I'm a kinder, gentler Mike.

WOW! You made that resolution over a year ago!! That means you were SERIOUS! It's like giving up smoking or drinking! Good job!

Michael Phelps · #53 03-10-2010, 04:56 PM

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WOW! You made that resolution over a year ago!! That means you were SERIOUS! It's like giving up smoking or drinking! Good job!

I'm going to try for that next year.

Pressing-On · #54 03-10-2010, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I'm going to try for that next year.

Oh my Lord!!!!

dizzyde · #55 03-10-2010, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I'm going to try for that next year.

Likely story! About the same time I stop dancing on top of bars, I suspect!!

SOUNWORTHY · #56 03-10-2010, 05:59 PM

UPCI is finally headed back in the right direction, about time!!

pelathais · #57 03-10-2010, 06:34 PM

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UPCI is finally headed back in the right direction, about time!!

I'm puzzled... given the fact that this has been the successful and ongoing "direction" of the UPCI for at least the last 40 years, why the "about time" jab?

Just go back and follow the trail of new "doctrines" being introduced from the time uncut hair on women was offered in the 1950's, all of the progressive changes to the Fundamental Doctrine and Articles of Faith intended to marginalize the "One Stepper" position and the constant culling of the herd by forcing out anyone who doesn't go along with the "Three Stepper" creed or is suspected of being "weak on doctrine..."

The list goes on. This is just more of the same program that has been deceitfully implemented in the past; only difference is that from Bernard's perspective it can be done more openly now because of the momentum that his predecessors have built up with their subterfuge.

pelathais · #58 03-10-2010, 06:42 PM

This really will lead to the complete marginalization of the UPC and assure that the label of "cult" is affixed more assuredly.

For this program to advance a number of beliefs have to be instilled in the minds of its followers:

1) That the "Three Stepper Acts 2:38 ONLY salvation" plan was the original teaching of the Apostolic Faith Movement and was unanimously endorsed by the founders and pioneers of the UPC and the Oneness Pentecostal Movement.

2) That the current "holiness standards" with the prohibition against women ever cutting or trimming their hair has always been the norm.

3) That there has always been an historic body of believers who upheld this message along with its program of "holiness standards" throughout the history of the church.

Since these are obvious lies and fabrications, the whole spirit behind this program will be rife with continued deceit and other underhanded methods for its implementation.

Other Christian groups will see the lies (and have seen the lies) before those within the movement even know what's going on. This will lead those within the movement to proclaim themselves as being "persecuted" when in fact they are the persecutors of their own brethren and the lies will continue to build up.

In other words, pretty much the status quo since the late 1960's.

*AQuietPlace* · #59 03-10-2010, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

This really will lead to the complete marginalization of the UPC and assure that the label of "cult" is affixed more assuredly.

For this program to advance a number of beliefs have to be instilled in the minds of its followers:

1) That the "Three Stepper Acts 2:38 ONLY salvation" plan was the original teaching of the Apostolic Faith Movement and was unanimously endorsed by the founders and pioneers of the UPC and the Oneness Pentecostal Movement.

2) That the current "holiness standards" with the prohibition against women ever cutting or trimming their hair has always been the norm.

3) That there has always been an historic body of believers who upheld this message along with its program of "holiness standards" throughout the history of the church.

I was taught all of the above all of my life. It's certainly nothing new. I don't think the UPC is doing a 'new' thing, it's just reinforcing business as usual.

There are a large number of people who want that, who feel very strongly about it. So, as I said before, I think it's inevitable that there is going to have to be a parting of the ways between that group and the group that is deemed more 'liberal'.

SOUNWORTHY · #60 03-10-2010, 07:46 PM

Not sure why so many on AFF is so concerned with what UPCI does. Most of you have never been UPCI or are have been's. Either way, many of you don't even like the organization.