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Old 03-09-2010, 01:52 PM
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Re: Oneness is NOT a cult!

Anyways the term Cult was adopted by Trinitarians to label any group that does not agree with them on doctrinal issues. It's contrived. The word originally meant, like the word sect, a religious group. Using that even Trinitarians are a cult.

We can call the a cult if we want, we can define a cult as any group that does not believe in the Oneness of the Godhead.

We can label them apostate from the original biblical faith.
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Old 03-09-2010, 01:53 PM
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Re: Oneness is NOT a cult!

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I would not say that the doctrine of "oneness" is cultic unless:
--It was claimed that it could only be understood by a personal and direct revelation,
--It was claimed that the group that preached it had a superior revelation to others,
--It was claimed that only those who believed that particular explanation of God were really God's people and the only ones who would be saved.
I believe based on your definition here the early Church would have been a cult. They were guilty as charged of all three.
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Re: Oneness is NOT a cult!

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What is a godhead?]

Oneness DOES teach/assert a distinction between Father and Son. That distinction is due to the incarnation and the Son's humanity
Correct, The term Godhead is only in the KJV in Romans, "....his eternal power and godhead...."

The "distinction," between the Father and Son that oneness teaches is FAR different than the distinction in the Father and Son of trintarianism. Trinitarianism believes in an "eternal Son." We do not. That fact alone makes us far different than Trinitarianism.
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In an interview with Paul Crouch, Benny Hinn said there are actually "nine of them." The Father, has a Spirit, Soul and Body, the Son has a Spirit, Soul and Body, and the Holy Ghost has a Spirit, Soul and Body.
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Finis Dake, known for the Dake Bible, taught that the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost each have a body, soul, and spirit.
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Correct, The term Godhead is only in the KJV in Romans, "....his eternal power and godhead...."
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plus also in Acts 17:9 and Colossians 2:9
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Oneness DOES teach/assert a distinction between Father and Son. That distinction is due to the incarnation and the Son's humanity
godhead means "godness"

It is my understanding that some oneness folks say that Jesus is both the Father and the Son and also that the Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Father.
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Finis Dake, known for the Dake Bible, taught that the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost each have a body, soul, and spirit.
A lot of Trinitarians view Father, Son and Spirit as though they have separate existences like three humans would
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A lot of Trinitarians view Father, Son and Spirit as though they have separate existences like three humans would
Like "Me, Myself and I?"
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Like "Me, Myself and I?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3kgjzUsDeg
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