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Old 11-21-2011, 09:38 PM
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I am not going to debate angelology tonight, but I would concede that it is more than slightly possible from what I have heard.

As far as the hair is concerned, the way that I understood it was used was as a sign of concecration when used in prayer. However, that was more from Bro. Stoneking. I have never read Sis. Reider's books on the topic.

I have never heard the fall of Satan used as a major tenant for the not wearing of jewelry, but would be willing to listen to a case be made for that position. I consider Paul, Peter, Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel to be quite suffiecient for God frowning on jewelry. Especially as I have learned how it was used for more than simple ornamentaion.



And as can easily be seen by this exchange, he definately has the two of us confused.
Sorry, but there's more in the O.T. to support jewelry wearing than to condemn it.
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Sorry, but there's more in the O.T. to support jewelry wearing than to condemn it.
They skip over that part...
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Old 11-21-2011, 10:15 PM
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Sorry, but there's more in the O.T. to support jewelry wearing than to condemn it.



Could show me where, after God is dealing with the children of Israel, jewelry is actually accepted and encouraged?
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Could show me where, after God is dealing with the children of Israel, jewelry is actually accepted and encouraged?
Bro. Jay, do you know Bro. Jeffers?
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Old 11-21-2011, 10:57 PM
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Nope, I have never met the man nor heard him preach a message. I am going to have to, but I am not going to do anything like that probably until after Thanksgiving. I have a lot of hours left to work, and then I am going out of town. However, I wait to judge anything until I have heard it for myself, or have it from someone I highly trust.
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Neither are wild stories from the minds of men and women like claiming one of the reasons jewelry is bad is that it was cast down with Lucifer from heaven.
Ha! I never heard that one before..new one to me. LOL
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it was pride that caused Lucifer to be cast out of heaven...
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:30 AM
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Yes indeed Sis. Alvear. I think the point Jay may be making is that Jewelry is associated to pride and vanity.

Honestly, I don't see much point in wearing jewelry besides my wedding ring, but neither do I see it as a sinful thing UNLESS the person doing so truly has a pride problem and thinks they are somethign special because they can wear gawdy jewelry.
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Nope, I have never met the man nor heard him preach a message. I am going to have to, but I am not going to do anything like that probably until after Thanksgiving. I have a lot of hours left to work, and then I am going out of town. However, I wait to judge anything until I have heard it for myself, or have it from someone I highly trust.
I'm like that too. What I'm hearing is coming from a very prominent minister - it's actually affecting his family.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:56 AM
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Could show me where, after God is dealing with the children of Israel, jewelry is actually accepted and encouraged?
Why did God use giving jewelry to prospective brides as a sign of blessing? Why did He (NT) say to put a ring on the prodigal son's finger?
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