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Old 12-21-2009, 05:37 PM
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Let be very, very clear, for the sake of my profession now and in the future.

I, Jermyn Davidson, am 100% against anyone or any organization that supports the violent overthrow of my homeland, the United States of America.


Neither am, I nor will I ever be, sympathetic or even empathetic, to those who entertain such unlawfulness.



May our GOD and Savior Jesus Christ continue to bless the United States of America.

I guess you and Thomas Jefferson don't have much in common.

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security
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Old 12-21-2009, 05:42 PM
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America will not have another civil war until there is a complete breakdown in the government and a split in the powers. When and if that happens there will be civil war. As long as power transfers as it should after an election America will not have a civil war. As long as there is an established form of government the people will not revolt. An uprising that is common people against the military would be nothing more than domestic terrorism.
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:23 PM
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Extremism is ugly.
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And everybody is an extremist in someone else's eyes.

So... everything is ugly to someone.

This country is the result of some "extremists"


Romans 13:1-4; 1. Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. 2. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. 3. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4. For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:57 PM
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Extremism is ugly.
I'm sure King George felt the same way.
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Old 12-21-2009, 09:07 PM
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I guess you and Thomas Jefferson don't have much in common.

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security
Where is that TJ quote about the tree of liberty being watered by the blood of tyrants?

(Barry isnt a tyrant. just a commie jackel in need of a sound beating at the polls in about 10 months.
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Old 12-21-2009, 09:12 PM
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Where is that TJ quote about the tree of liberty being watered by the blood of tyrants?

(Barry isnt a tyrant. just a commie jackel in need of a sound beating at the polls in about 10 months.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.
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Old 12-21-2009, 09:17 PM
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With the current President quickly moving the US away from democracy, freedom and capitalism and moving towards socialism ...

Do you believe the US will have another civil war?

If so, would you fight and which side would you be on?
I'll sit on the fence and when the libs and cons kill each other off I'll swoop in and take whats left
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Stew, I think you are a sincere christian and support moral policies, but you never take sides in the liberal/conservative arena. I am a conservative democrat. I am a democrat when it comes to the economy and a conservative when it comes to social policy. I think you are as well but you never spell it out.
Im not sure what issues you are referring to, but I am very vocal and clear about my stances on issues. What I am not clear about is belonging to any one political party or set of proscribed thoughts. I am an individual thinker. I would be considered liberal on some issues and conservative on others and passionately and genuinely so.
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So under what conditions do you all feel that this violence is justified?
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So under what conditions do you all feel that this violence is justified?
I guess it depends on if you are a Lex Rex or Rex Lex guy.

When the king, or the ruling authority, no longer abide by the law but instead insist that they are the law and are not subject to the law, that is when violence is justified.
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