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04-23-2007, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Brother Strange
In my opinion, yes.
But read my full explanation in my post above.
"Declared" does not mean that he became the Son after the resurrection. It simply means "DECLARED." The Apostles, including Paul from his very first preaching, declared Him to be the Son of God.
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Elder please don't think I was implying that you advocate Adoptionistic Christology because I know you would never teach such a doctrine.
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04-23-2007, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Wouldn't being virgin borned give Jesus Christ in His Earthly ministry the right to be the only unique Son Of God?
If God hadn't taken on humanity How could He have provided redemption for fallen Adam's race?
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Certainly "virgin born" would be unique indeed. I don't know too many here in Rockland, Texas that can claim that. Amen, bro. Scott.
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04-23-2007, 02:01 PM
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You it's kinda funny sometimes on the job ,people will say did you know that there is a man in such and such place that claims to be Jesus Christ ?
I always say you know that fellow is lying cause His Momma wouldn't no virgin.
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04-23-2007, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Elder please don't think I was implying that you advocate Adoptionistic Christology because I know you would never teach such a doctrine.
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Thank you. I am happy that you KNOW that.
The body of the Adoptionistic faith in its entirety is full of error. As in the doctrine of the Trinity, you can always find elements of truth in each and every heresy.
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04-23-2007, 02:06 PM
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One thing I do wonder about is that How Bishop Rowe ,could get into that Adam Doctrine teaching as I understand He was a powerful preacher at one time ?
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04-23-2007, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
One thing I do wonder about is that How Bishop Rowe ,could get into that Adam Doctrine teaching as I understand He was a powerful preacher at one time ?
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They were very cunning in the way that they taught it. If one is not careful, it will draw you into it with their trend of logic.
Bishop Rowe was a master preacher in his day. He was my old pastor's (G. A. Mangun) boyhood pastor. He told me that Bishop Rowe had no equal in eloquence. When it was announced that he would be speaking at the General Conference or at a Campmeeting, there would be record breaking crowds.
But, I'm with you, it is truly amazing how easily it is for some to be suckered into some of these crazy doctrines. I suppose for every dumb doctrine, there are an even dumber crowd that will buy into it.
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04-23-2007, 02:46 PM
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Yes since Bishop GB.Rowe was a pioneer of Pentecost ,he obviously knew his Bible ,but the idea that Adam in the garden of Eden was Jesus and that Jesus had to die for his own sin ,is way out there.
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04-23-2007, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
What about the declaration at the river of Jordan and also the Mt. of Transfiguration?
However the resurrection was infallible proof He was who He said he was for all to see. BUT He did NOT become the Son of God at the resurrection he was the Son of God in Mary's womb if the angel can be believed Luke 1:15. |
Excellent, Brother Epley!!!
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04-23-2007, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Yes since Bishop GB.Rowe was a pioneer of Pentecost ,he obviously knew his Bible ,but the idea that Adam in the garden of Eden was Jesus and that Jesus had to die for his own sin ,is way out there.
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I really have not thought too much about that docrine very much over the years since I first studied it out. I first heard of it from bro. G. A. Mangun concerning Bishop Rowe falling into it.
Truly in the simplistic view of the doctrine, it seem quite ridiclous, as you pointed out. But, if you listen to those teachers and read some of their arguments, they complicate it with such twisted reasoning, it will tie your tail in a dozen knots.
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04-23-2007, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Brother Strange
I really have not thought too much about that docrine very much over the years since I first studied it out. I first heard of it from bro. G. A. Mangun concerning Bishop Rowe falling into it.
Truly in the simplistic view of the doctrine, it seem quite ridiclous, as you pointed out. But, if you listen to those teachers and read some of their arguments, they complicate it with such twisted reasoning, it will tie your tail in a dozen knots.
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Brother Strange,
I appreciate that you all have studied these various views. It's very interesting reading!!!
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