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View Poll Results: Did Jesus ever kill anyone?
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11-05-2009, 10:59 PM
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Re: Did Jesus ever kill anyone?
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Originally Posted by jfrog
So the historical person Christ Jesus wasn't the infinite eternal God?????
EDIT: Sure you don't believe Jesus was only a man Jeffery?
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I'm sure of what I believe.
I'm sure that Jesus is fully man, and fully God. I'm sure the Christ that said that we should follow Him, and imitate him, was not merrily the carpenter's son, but was actually God in flesh, the eternal One.
Do you have a different perspective of his divine nature/human flesh dichotomy? Sure you don't believe Jesus was some divine flesh, jfrog?
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11-05-2009, 11:05 PM
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Re: Did Jesus ever kill anyone?
There is no historical reference to Jesus of Nazareth killing anyone.
He preached/taught quite the opposite. He came to build up, not destroy. He came to fulfill, not destroy. He came to set free, not put to bondage. He came to save, not condemn. He came to give life, not death.
To answer "yes" to this question, there is not all information known to the audience (some implied theological argument hidden only to the surveyor), or you aren't understanding the question properly.
We refer to the manifestations of God to His people by "Father, Son, Spirit" and the question concerns specifically, Jesus Christ. In the future tense, Christ will judge the world, and a wealth of goodies in Revelation... but nothing present tense, or past.
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11-05-2009, 11:06 PM
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Re: Did Jesus ever kill anyone?
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Originally Posted by pelathais
That was the Holy Ghost Who did that; a different Person.
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Do I slap you now?
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11-05-2009, 11:07 PM
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Re: Did Jesus ever kill anyone?
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Originally Posted by pelathais
Yeah, I want to laugh... but...
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Don't worry Pel. We don't do this anymore. Today we in the UPCI just take their licenses. 
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11-05-2009, 11:08 PM
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Re: Did Jesus ever kill anyone?
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
There is no historical reference to Jesus of Nazareth killing anyone.
He preached/taught quite the opposite. He came to build up, not destroy. He came to fulfill, not destroy. He came to set free, not put to bondage. He came to save, not condemn. He came to give life, not death.
To answer "yes" to this question, there is not all information known to the audience (some implied theological argument hidden only to the surveyor), or you aren't understanding the question properly.
We refer to the manifestations of God to His people by "Father, Son, Spirit" and the question concerns specifically, Jesus Christ. In the future tense, Christ will judge the world, and a wealth of goodies in Revelation... but nothing present tense, or past.
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What is your opinion on how Ananias and Sapphira died?
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11-05-2009, 11:08 PM
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Re: Did Jesus ever kill anyone?
If the man Christ Jesus killed he'd be no better than Mohammad. The thing about Jesus is that he was a man of peace who's teachings turned the world upside down through the power of love.
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11-05-2009, 11:11 PM
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Re: Did Jesus ever kill anyone?
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Originally Posted by Aquila
If the man Christ Jesus killed he'd be no better than Mohammad. The thing about Jesus is that he was a man of peace who's teachings turned the world upside down through the power of love.
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What is your opinion on how Ananias and Sapphira died?
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11-05-2009, 11:19 PM
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Re: Did Jesus ever kill anyone?
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
I'm sure of what I believe.
I'm sure that Jesus is fully man, and fully God. I'm sure the Christ that said that we should follow Him, and imitate him, was not merrily the carpenter's son, but was actually God in flesh, the eternal One.
Do you have a different perspective of his divine nature/human flesh dichotomy? Sure you don't believe Jesus was some divine flesh, jfrog? 
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From what I can tell, my idea of Jesus being fully man and fully God differs drastically from yours.
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11-05-2009, 11:25 PM
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Re: Did Jesus ever kill anyone?
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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
There is no historical reference to Jesus of Nazareth killing anyone.
He preached/taught quite the opposite. He came to build up, not destroy. He came to fulfill, not destroy. He came to set free, not put to bondage. He came to save, not condemn. He came to give life, not death.
To answer "yes" to this question, there is not all information known to the audience (some implied theological argument hidden only to the surveyor), or you aren't understanding the question properly.
We refer to the manifestations of God to His people by "Father, Son, Spirit" and the question concerns specifically, Jesus Christ. In the future tense, Christ will judge the world, and a wealth of goodies in Revelation... but nothing present tense, or past.
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If Christ is God, then Christ has taken peoples lives. In fact, if Christ is God, then it seems everything that God has done can be attributed to Christ. There is no way to separate the actions and say: Jesus didn't do this but God did. If Jesus is God then Jesus did it by virtue of being God.
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11-05-2009, 11:34 PM
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Re: Did Jesus ever kill anyone?
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
What is your opinion on how Ananias and Sapphira died?
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I believe they were smitten by the Holy Ghost.
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