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Old 10-02-2009, 08:14 AM
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I don't like his books either ... they don't have any pictures
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His words were, "Jesus Himself assumed that people would not change the color of their hair (Matthew 5:36)."

As I said, I believe this is taken out of context, but he is good man and I won't hold this over his head. I'm sure, very sure, we can disagree with a good many authors on various topics and issues.

I guess here, it's his turn to be bashed.
Why would he think Jesus would "assume" anything when He knows the end from the beginning. That is a very lame excuse. IMO
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That is just silly. None of those things makes one a great writer. DB is not now nor has he ever been a great writer. There are so many in the UPC that think they are great writers and they are not. As much as I respect KH his book The Anointed Ones (I think that was the title) amateur at best. However, as a leader I think the future will show he was the man for the hour.
What is your opinion of a great writer?
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I think Philip Yancey is a great writer. I have most of his books. Whats so Amazing About Grace trumps any writing on grace I have ever come across from any Apostolic writer.

I also have found DB to be a bit weak on some arguments. He goe sout of his way to associate the lottery with Idolatry in his Holiness books. Really? Playing the lotto is the same as worshipping a false god? I found that terribly sad.

That said, I thinkhe is a good writer. Not great, and not always the most honest or thorough, but good.
Someone recommended that I should read one of Yancey's books - The Jesus I never Knew,
I got bored with it about a quarter of the way through and will probably never read anything else by him.

On the Lottery/Gambling - Let's see what others have to say. Let's take John MacArthur's view:
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Guess that is not only Bernard's view......
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Why would he think Jesus would "assume" anything when He knows the end from the beginning. That is a very lame excuse. IMO
I can only guess that he's using the idea of "changing". That if your hair is white, dying it black doesn't make it black, which is true, but I wouldn't use that scripture to prove my point.

On that subject - this is funny - we were attending a function at another church and a lady had put coloring in her hair. She was perspiring during the service and black dye was dripping down her face!
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After a conversation I had last night with someone familiar with DB, and his contributions to our organization, I wish to modify my statement.

I am glad DB is our new GS.

I still don't like the books I have read by him, but I now realize the books I am familiar with were written over 20 years ago.


Besides, he's written several, I've written none.


Maybe one day I'll write a book on the Gospel and Biblical Doctrines and let someone talk about how much they like or don't like my work.
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Oh really.....just wait and it'll be about shoes, then what are you going to say?
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I don't like his books either ... they don't have any pictures
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I can only guess that he's using the idea of "changing". That if your hair is white, dying it black doesn't make it black, which is true, but I wouldn't use that scripture to prove my point.

On that subject - this is funny - we were attending a function at another church and a lady had put coloring in her hair. She was perspiring during the service and black dye was dripping down her face!

Oh my goodness, how did you keep a straight face?
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Someone recommended that I should read one of Yancey's books - The Jesus I never Knew,
I got bored with it about a quarter of the way through and will probably never read anything else by him.

On the Lottery/Gambling - Let's see what others have to say. Let's take John MacArthur's view:


Guess that is not only Bernard's view......
I think playing the stocks is just as much a gamble, especially these days.
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