Universal Health Insurance & Abortion:

[Esther]

Originally Posted by MikeinAR

I'm not sure about the immediately part, but it WILL reduce premiums without a doubt. The costs of procedures, hopsital stays, doctors visits, pharmaceuticals, etc.. will all decrease which in turn will make insurance policies much cheaper.

The problem we'll have if we don't mandate is that we all know there is a certain percentage of the population who thinks their bullet proof and don't need the insurance or they'll simply use their money on other stuff and won't buy into a plan.

If that's allowed, premiums won't go down.

Nothing goes down in price when the government is involved. Plus you will pay for more with less coverage. How is that better?

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Twisp

I realize you keep saying that, and you might even believe it, but there is no proof of it. None that you have provided, at least.

Go to you tube and you will find plenty. In fact, I think Coadie posted one already if I'm not mistaken.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

But non-immediacy is a HUGE problem. I cannot afford to buy health insurance right now.

SOMETHING needs to be done about our health care system. I'm not sure what I think the best plan is.

Tort reform. In my office building early 80's we had an attorney that had 3 judgements in the 5-15 million dollar range. Then with malpractice awards going up, one of the firms larger class action suits was over 20 million. Now we see annual insurance premioums are 100,000 dollars for a doc and some Ob/Gyns totally stop doing deliveries because they can hit 180,000 thousand. The Dem Lawyers in congress hate tort reform. John Edwards made a couple hundred million on medical malpractice.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Esther

Go to you tube and you will find plenty. In fact, I think Coadie posted one already if I'm not mistaken.

We keep posting again and agian. It is not about the videos. It is a mental block. I posted one several times.

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by Esther

Go to you tube and you will find plenty. In fact, I think Coadie posted one already if I'm not mistaken.

I shouldn't have to. If you are going to state something repeatedly as fact, you should show proof on it.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Twisp

I shouldn't have to. If you are going to state something repeatedly as fact, you should show proof on it.

Like Coadie said he has already provide it for you, you don't seem to watch or understand, not sure which.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Twisp

I shouldn't have to. If you are going to state something repeatedly as fact, you should show proof on it.

BTW...do you have proof that any of what we are showing is not true?

[Twisp]

Originally Posted by Esther

BTW...do you have proof that any of what we are showing is not true?

Burden of proof is on the accuser, which would be you in this case.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

The mandated health care will still have to be affordable for all people. Auto insurance is required, but if I can't afford it, I can not have a car. I can ride the bus, carpool, or walk.

I can't not have a body.

I'm not sure that mandating it is going to immediately bring the prices down.

Car insurance and medical insurance are two different animals. If they billed you for the uninsured drivers you'd see your car insurance FAR higher. Very bad comparison. Such comparisons show how little most know about this stuff.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by coadie

I read the 1018 pages several weeks ago. Apperently you may not be familiar with insurance.

I have purchased health plans for employees for over 30 years. You must be a government worker? And who pays for your coverage?

I am both a tax payer and I pay the government negotiated monthly premium. Therefore, I do. However, since I have the bargaining power of the government my rates are far lower than yours. We're trying to get you guys on board but your afraid.