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07-24-2009, 06:50 PM
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Re: This UPC Bashing is Getting Old
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Originally Posted by Monkeyman
Back in the day when I first joined 2 forums ago, there were always opposite points of view. Both sides brought intelligent, witty, and sometimes deep thoughts and it was very interesting...in the past few months, things have changed.
I still see good points made by both sides, but I have to tell you, in almost every thread concerning the UPC, I am reading some very condescending, vile, and bitter posts. I don't think one has to agree with my org's decison, and or edicts. I can even appreciate a different point of view...but...some, actually, many posts I have read have surprised me with the anger behind them. Some of the members back in the day had been hurt by an organization too, and some were even still angry, but they posted with humility, love, and a Christ-like attitude....I miss those days. Now I am wincing before I go into a thread because I don't know what I will read...again.
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I totally agree with you. Great post!!!
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07-24-2009, 11:12 PM
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Re: This UPC Bashing is Getting Old
Great post MM! I have to say that I too, totally agree with you!
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07-25-2009, 08:41 AM
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Re: This UPC Bashing is Getting Old
Primateman,
I agree that all sides should show respect. I think perhaps the reason criticism of the UPC stands out is that it is the largest Oneness org. so is a bigger target while many of the liberal churches are independent or have pastors that belong to ministerial associations like Global (GNCM) that are virtually invisible.
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Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-25-2009, 09:50 AM
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Re: This UPC Bashing is Getting Old
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Primateman,
I agree that all sides should show respect. I think perhaps the reason criticism of the UPC stands out is that it is the largest Oneness org. so is a bigger target while many of the liberal churches are independent or have pastors that belong to ministerial associations like Global (GNCM) that are virtually invisible.
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Is Global oneness??
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07-25-2009, 10:21 AM
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Re: This UPC Bashing is Getting Old
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Originally Posted by CC1
Primateman,
I agree that all sides should show respect. I think perhaps the reason criticism of the UPC stands out is that it is the largest Oneness org. so is a bigger target while many of the liberal churches are independent or have pastors that belong to ministerial associations like Global (GNCM) that are virtually invisible.
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Si Si Jaun, again, I could care less if people criticize my org, that comes with the territory. It is the post over the past couple of months that have a lot of bitterness behind them and the things said (witchcraft, hope they cease to exist)which are pretty low down in the gutter. Folks like yourself have had both criticism and praise for the UPC, but all with the correct attitudes.
Again, criticism doesn't bother me, I've been a worship leader/choir director for 15 years...I'm used to it 
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07-25-2009, 10:32 AM
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Re: This UPC Bashing is Getting Old
Monkeydude, As a great US president once said, "I feel your pain!" 
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07-25-2009, 10:33 AM
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Re: This UPC Bashing is Getting Old
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Monkeydude, As a great US president once said, "I feel your pain!" |
Another one NOT so great said, "I feel your pants" 
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07-25-2009, 10:42 AM
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Re: This UPC Bashing is Getting Old
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Another one NOT so great said, "I feel your pants" |
I think it was the same guy!
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07-25-2009, 12:09 PM
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Re: This UPC Bashing is Getting Old
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Is Global oneness??
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It has both Oneness and Trinnies in it. I believe most of the leadership has all or almost always been Oneness preachers, exUPC ones.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-25-2009, 12:15 PM
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Re: This UPC Bashing is Getting Old
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Originally Posted by CC1
It has both Oneness and Trinnies in it. I believe most of the leadership has all or almost always been Oneness preachers, exUPC ones.
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Yep.
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