What is your greatest ability? - Page 6

Nahum · #51 02-12-2007, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyChocolate

I, too, have seen this and it is a very sad, sad situation each time I see it. I have watched ministers , men called of God, just minister in the local church with the pastor saying, "one day you might be out there on your own". And they keep dangling the carrot before the rabbit and lead them on but never have any intention on letting them go. Sad !!! so you have 15-20 "young preachers" sitting on pews for 10-20 years...and the pastor keeps saying, "there's still more I need to teach you on leadership'" ...

Hello!

Who in their right mind would sit for 10-20 years? I sincerely doubt they are God-called. Don't put it all on the pastor, if some guy is stupid enough to remain inactive for that long, he has no business being in a pulpit.

Real burdens require discomfort and movement.
I don't buy what you guys are selling.

Hitler? Napoleon? Whatever!

How about the pansies that are to weak-kneed to step out on their own?

LadyChocolate · #52 02-12-2007, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Hello!

Who in their right mind would sit for 10-20 years? I sincerely doubt they are God-called. Don't put it all on the pastor, if some guy is stupid enough to remain inactive for that long, he has no business being in a pulpit.

Real burdens require discomfort and movement.
I don't buy what you guys are selling.

Hitler? Napoleon? Whatever!

How about the pansies that are to weak-kneed to step out on their own?

you really don't know where some people come from. There are some, hopefully few, but there are some pastors out there who don't let their young preachers go....And they will use fear to control their saints so they don't leave. They are the norm, but I've met them....And when men who God calling them leave, their name is smeared before the church even though they gave everything to that church...... guess you've never seen this before......

Barb · #53 02-12-2007, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Hello!

Who in their right mind would sit for 10-20 years? I sincerely doubt they are God-called. Don't put it all on the pastor, if some guy is stupid enough to remain inactive for that long, he has no business being in a pulpit.

Real burdens require discomfort and movement.
I don't buy what you guys are selling.

Hitler? Napoleon? Whatever!

How about the pansies that are to weak-kneed to step out on their own?

Perhaps we shouldn't be so hard here, PP...we have no way of knowing what is actually going on in a given situation. When one is trusting that the man of God has the mind of God, it is a hard thing to go against.

It is easy to say what we would do when we are not in that position...JMHO...

Nahum · #54 02-12-2007, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyChocolate

you really don't know where some people come from. There are some, hopefully few, but there are some pastors out there who don't let their young preachers go....And they will use fear to control their saints so they don't leave. They are the norm, but I've met them....And when men who God calling them leave, their name is smeared before the church even though they gave everything to that church...... guess you've never seen this before......

So he responds out of fear?

That, my Sister, is a cult! Run as far away as possible!
Who cares if his name is smeared? Time proves all things.

Tell him to get some chutzpah and do his own thing!

LadyChocolate · #55 02-12-2007, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barb

Perhaps we shouldn't be so hard here, PP...we have no way of knowing what is actually going on in a given situation. When one is trusting that the man of God has the mind of God, it is a hard thing to go against.

It is easy to say what we would do when we are not in that position...JMHO...

That is true! When you submit to a man of God and let them pastor you, you feel like they are going to get the mind of God with you.......and they use the "submission" part of the bible to keep people where they want them....I have actually heard preachers say that the man of God hears from God for the saints, including the "called" preachers. So if you feel direction from God and the man of God doesn't , he considers you out of the will of God if you leave because he doesnt' see it..... GET IT!!!!

LadyChocolate · #56 02-12-2007, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

So he responds out of fear?

That, my Sister, is a cult! Run as far away as possible!
Who cares if his name is smeared? Time proves all things.

Tell him to get some chutzpah and do his own thing!

I hear ya!!!

Nahum · #57 02-12-2007, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barb

Perhaps we shouldn't be so hard here, PP...we have no way of knowing what is actually going on in a given situation. When one is trusting that the man of God has the mind of God, it is a hard thing to go against.

It is easy to say what we would do when we are not in that position...JMHO...

Some trust in men, some trust in horses.....
Can you finish it?

Sounds like he is looking for a calling from his pastor rather than Jesus.
He needs to get out of there.

I'm not being to hard Barb, just being honest. I have been where he is at.

Nahum · #58 02-12-2007, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyChocolate

That is true! When you submit to a man of God and let them pastor you, you feel like they are going to get the mind of God with you.......and they use the "submission" part of the bible to keep people where they want them....I have actually heard preachers say that the man of God hears from God for the saints, including the "called" preachers. So if you feel direction from God and the man of God doesn't , he considers you out of the will of God if you leave because he doesnt' see it..... GET IT!!!!

Listen, when you post like this it gives all of us pastors a bad rap.

If God called a man or woman somewhere, they had better get to going.
Men are fallible, God isn't.

Quit blaming the pastor, those who are called have a responsibility to be somewhere where that call can be developed.

These sort of pastors are the exception - not the rule.

LadyChocolate · #59 02-12-2007, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Some trust in men, some trust in horses.....
Can you finish it?

Sounds like he is looking for a calling from his pastor rather than Jesus.
He needs to get out of there.

I'm not being to hard Barb, just being honest. I have been where he is at.

I'm very sensitive too issues like this. I've seen a lot of people hurt from these situations and many lose their soul because they don't know how to rightly divide the word of God and man....

RevDWW · #60 02-12-2007, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Hello!

Who in their right mind would sit for 10-20 years? I sincerely doubt they are God-called. Don't put it all on the pastor, if some guy is stupid enough to remain inactive for that long, he has no business being in a pulpit.

Real burdens require discomfort and movement.
I don't buy what you guys are selling.

Hitler? Napoleon? Whatever!

How about the pansies that are to weak-kneed to step out on their own?

What if it was ingrained into these ministers that they should never ask for an opportunity, it will come when God allows?