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11-06-2008, 08:54 PM
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Re: Mark Segraves
For the love of all that's holy and good, WHY????????
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I'm (sic) not cynical, I just haven't been around long enough to be Jedi mind-tricked by politics as usual. Alas, maybe in a few years I'll be beaten back into the herd. tstew
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11-06-2008, 09:09 PM
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Re: Mark Segraves
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For the love of all that's holy and good, WHY????????
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You so funny Charnock.
I know one of Mark's best friends is on this forum.
and that friend has been silent ;-) That's why he's his best friend ;-)
My guess...just easier to get a new work of the ground in the St Louis area with out the Organization.
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11-06-2008, 09:19 PM
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Re: Mark Segraves
Okay, that's a little bit of information.
Keep it flowing or I will bring out the big blue font again.
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I'm (sic) not cynical, I just haven't been around long enough to be Jedi mind-tricked by politics as usual. Alas, maybe in a few years I'll be beaten back into the herd. tstew
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11-06-2008, 10:08 PM
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Re: Mark Segraves
I did click on the expanded version of his new church's belief statement and it is totally PCI.
Water baptism is specifically mentioned as being a sacrament and not a requirement for salvation.
Very intersting.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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11-07-2008, 08:12 AM
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the ultracon
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Re: Mark Segraves
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Originally Posted by CC1
I did click on the expanded version of his new church's belief statement and it is totally PCI.
Water baptism is specifically mentioned as being a sacrament and not a requirement for salvation.
Very intersting.
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Very true.
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11-07-2008, 08:29 AM
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Re: Mark Segraves
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Then why start the stinkin' thread!
I wanna know why he left the UPC!!!!!!!!!! |
Call him and ask him.
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11-07-2008, 10:54 AM
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Re: Mark Segraves
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Why did Mark Segraves leave the UPC????
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Based on his doctrinal belief statement on his website (the expanded version) it appears to be a doctrinal difference.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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11-07-2008, 01:19 PM
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Re: Mark Segraves
Totally off topic but -
Segraves
.... I can't place it, but it reminds me of a demon name for some reason. I think it's linked to some game I played previously. Just wierd everytime I see this topic it reminds me =X!
I have no idea who Mark Segraves is and haven't read this thread other than the OP. just to clarify 
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03-30-2009, 04:41 AM
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Re: Mark Segraves
Is this the same Mark Segraves?
http://www.lifesong.net/staff.htm
If so, new church and his wife's name seems to be different but the kids are the same
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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03-30-2009, 06:30 AM
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Cross-examine it!
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Re: Mark Segraves
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Same wife.
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