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07-23-2008, 11:26 PM
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Re: Dallas Metroplex Churches ?
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That's it! Mclaughlin is quite conservitive.
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We have friends that moved to Dallas a couple yrs ago and that's where they go to church. I think it qualifies as quite conservative!
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07-23-2008, 11:59 PM
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Re: Dallas Metroplex Churches ?
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I really like Bro. Flowers. Would be interesting to hear exactly what he is teaching about holiness. Besides, CM Becton goes to church there and there aren't many finer Christian gentelenn on the face of the earth, IMO.
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Interesting. I didn't know that CM Becton had retired to the Dallas area. I wonder why there and not Nashville.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
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07-24-2008, 12:00 AM
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Re: Dallas Metroplex Churches ?
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uhm.... well....errrr.... please forget Mike Hayes....
please....
CC1 dude said he wanted CONSERVITIVE CHURCH! lol!
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You have to admit that the thought of a very conservative UPC type visiting Mike Hayes church is pretty funny.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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07-24-2008, 12:08 AM
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Re: Dallas Metroplex Churches ?
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Interesting. I didn't know that CM Becton had retired to the Dallas area. I wonder why there and not Nashville.
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Oh, I don't know....maybe because anyone with half a brain would choose Texas over Tennessee.
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07-24-2008, 12:49 AM
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Re: Dallas Metroplex Churches ?
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Fortunately I have had time to cool down before responding, so I will just say this. I can acknowledge and appreciate your opinion - in spite of the fact that you have discounted the faith, beliefs and salvation of our entire church family and ministry. Our website is not an all inclusive bullet list of our core beliefs, but rather a simple explanation for those who don't know God. You can call us whatever you like, whether it be liberal or progressive, but we are not a watered down version of the apostolic doctrine.
Would still love to have you visit. ![Smile](http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/images/smilies/smile.gif) God bless.
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Uh, but what about those that already know God who want to use the website as a witnessing tool. Surely just a "summary" of your beliefs is not enough to explain how one gets to heaven. YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN of the water and of the Spirit and after reading the statement of faith, it did not explain how one can be born again. By no means do I think your church is not saved, however, its important to me who IS saved that my churches website explain how to get to heaven in their statement of faith otherwise it is a watered down version of the Acts 2:38 message. Just my view however I am just stating the facts according to what was presented to me on your website.
Funny, I met someone online that was telling me that they had no clue they were going to a COGIC/Church of God In Christ church because the literature nor the website said anything about being COGIC. He knew something was up when he saw women in skirts all the time but still could not put his finger on it (and yes, there are still some COGIC churches who teach outward standards).
I say all of that to say its very important TO ME for the core beliefs of the church to be on there website in this day in age.
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07-24-2008, 12:51 AM
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Re: Dallas Metroplex Churches ?
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Just keep your eyes peeled the next few Sunday's for that visitor wih one eyebrow arched and a look of disapproval on her face as she looks around to see if all of your saints meet her dress code and hair standards! ![Tease](http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/images/smilies/tease.gif)
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1. I'm not UPC so you can grow or cut your hair all you want. I could care less.
2. I am not female, I'm a DUDE!
Thanks all for the comments. I have my work cut out for me visiting churches believing God will plant me where He wants me to be.
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07-24-2008, 12:56 AM
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Re: Dallas Metroplex Churches ?
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Uh, but what about those that already know God who want to use the website as a witnessing tool. Surely just a "summary" of your beliefs is not enough to explain how one gets to heaven. YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN of the water and of the Spirit and after reading the statement of faith, it did not explain how one can be born again. By no means do I think your church is not saved, however, its important to me who IS saved that my churches website explain how to get to heaven in their statement of faith otherwise it is a watered down version of the Acts 2:38 message. Just my view however I am just stating the facts according to what was presented to me on your website.
Funny, I met someone online that was telling me that they had no clue they were going to a COGIC/Church of God In Christ church because the literature nor the website said anything about being COGIC. He knew something was up when he saw women in skirts all the time but still could not put his finger on it (and yes, there are still some COGIC churches who teach outward standards).
I say all of that to say its very important TO ME for the core beliefs of the church to be on there website in this day in age.
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Eeeew Lord you'll really gotta a fued going on I see - have at it
I like a rukus
anyhow, what you are describing is what they call "undercover COGIC".
many UPC churches are doing the same way when they name their
churches generic names. I think they do that because of the stigma
that some carry around with traditional churches.
Actually, I didn't know it but Rick Warran is Baptist! however, his
church is called Saddleback church.
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07-24-2008, 01:26 AM
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Re: Dallas Metroplex Churches ?
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Originally Posted by PraiseHymn
Uh, but what about those that already know God who want to use the website as a witnessing tool. Surely just a "summary" of your beliefs is not enough to explain how one gets to heaven. YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN of the water and of the Spirit and after reading the statement of faith, it did not explain how one can be born again. By no means do I think your church is not saved, however, its important to me who IS saved that my churches website explain how to get to heaven in their statement of faith otherwise it is a watered down version of the Acts 2:38 message. Just my view however I am just stating the facts according to what was presented to me on your website.
Funny, I met someone online that was telling me that they had no clue they were going to a COGIC/Church of God In Christ church because the literature nor the website said anything about being COGIC. He knew something was up when he saw women in skirts all the time but still could not put his finger on it (and yes, there are still some COGIC churches who teach outward standards).
I say all of that to say its very important TO ME for the core beliefs of the church to be on there website in this day in age.
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So.... I've tried to be good spirited about this, but now you're just irritating me. I don't know if it's your writing style or what (I realize that tone can be hard to interpret on forums), but your responses seem quite condemning. And if you want to go down that path, then we can. And I can assure you, that I will not apologize for our approach, nor feel that need to justify it according to your criteria.
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its important to me who IS saved that my churches website explain how to get to heaven in their statement of faith otherwise it is a watered down version of the Acts 2:38 message
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I can appreciate that this is important to you, but leaping to the conclusion that we are watered down on doctrine because of the verbiage on our website is asinine.
You've talked me into it. By all means, feel free to go to another church
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07-24-2008, 01:27 AM
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Tired of it.
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Re: Dallas Metroplex Churches ?
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Eeeew Lord you'll really gotta a fued going on I see - have at it
I like a rukus
anyhow, what you are describing is what they call "undercover COGIC".
many UPC churches are doing the same way when they name their
churches generic names. I think they do that because of the stigma
that some carry around with traditional churches.
Actually, I didn't know it but Rick Warran is Baptist! however, his
church is called Saddleback church.
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Troublemaker.
I'll take you on next, my friend.
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07-24-2008, 01:29 AM
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Re: Dallas Metroplex Churches ?
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Interesting. I didn't know that CM Becton had retired to the Dallas area. I wonder why there and not Nashville.
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From what I was told his daughter is Sis Flowers... therefore he is there retiring with his family
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