What was Paul's Thorn? What's yours?

Originally Posted by Timmy

Hmm. Maybe Paul's thorn in the flesh was a thorn?

Well, Paul certainly found it as annoying as having a literal thorn.

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Originally Posted by Chan

I'm well aware of what it is, Daniel. But there is STILL no basis whatsoever for taking Paul's "thorn in the flesh" and establishing it as a doctrine that applies to everyone else. Just because Paul was given what he called a thorn in the flesh doesn't mean that we are given one (or more than one).

No one said we're all DIVINELY APPOINTED A THORN ... you are however suggesting it ... I DO NO THAT WE ALL HAVE PERSONAL STRUGGLES ... This is called the FLESH IS WEAK doctrine .... AS COMPARED TO THE WE ARE NEW CREATURES IN CHRIST doctrine ... yet it does appear there is also a STRUGGLE BETWEEN BOTH FLESH AND SPIRIT doctrine also ..

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What was Paul's Thorn? What's yours?


Trinitarian sympathizers that are causing the lost to remain lost because they refuse to tell them the truth.

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

No one said we're all DIVINELY APPOINTED A THORN ... you are however suggesting it ... I DO NO THAT THAT WE ALL HAVE PERSONAL STRUGGLES ... This is called the FLESH IS WEAK doctrine .... AS COMPARED THE WE ARE NEW CREATURES IN CHRIST doctrine ... yet it does appear there is also a STRUGGLE BETWEEN BOTH FLESH AND SPIRIT doctrine also ..

How did I suggest there was such a thing? I said there is no basis for using Paul's thorn in the flesh passage as a basis for establishing a doctrine in the church that everyone has a thorn in the flesh.

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THORN IN FLESH = PERSONAL STRUGGLE ... THIS IS CALLED A METAPHOR.

Anything else is just NITPICKING.

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

THORN IN FLESH = PERSONAL STRUGGLE ... THIS IS CALLED A METAPHOR.

Anything else is just NITPICKING.

But the passage itself doesn't suggest that what Paul had was a mere personal struggle.

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Originally Posted by Chan

But the passage itself doesn't suggest that what Paul had was a mere personal struggle.

None of our PERSONAL STRUGGLES are JUST MERE ... especially when one reaches the spiritual dimensions of a man like Paul ... See M. Luther.

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

None of our PERSONAL STRUGGLES are JUST MERE ... especially when one reaches the spiritual dimensions of a man like Paul ... See M. Luther.

You're really not getting it, are you? PAUL'S THORN IN THE FLESH IS NOT MERELY A "PERSONAL STRUGGLE" (THAT WE ALL HAVE), IT WAS SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY GIVEN TO HIM FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE!

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My thorn is .......

NOT!

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Originally Posted by Chan

You're really not getting it, are you? PAUL'S THORN IN THE FLESH IS NOT MERELY A "PERSONAL STRUGGLE" (THAT WE ALL HAVE), IT WAS SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY GIVEN TO HIM FOR A SPECIFIC PURPOSE!

are you suggesting God doesn't allow things in our life to MOLD US ... I know he doesn't tempt us ... but ... it does appear that Job was tested ... and many other men/women of God ....