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Cindy · #51 04-02-2008, 09:33 PM

I LOVE MY PASTOR. And I do think most pastor's do a great job and that it's not my job to police their money. If athletes and movie stars can have palatial homes and expensive vehicles why not a pastor? They deserve it more. Why don't we pay our pastor's and missionaries more? I don't think it's right for any church to struggle, but thankfully most pastor's are not making earthly treasures the most important thing in life.

tv1a · #52 04-02-2008, 09:39 PM

Ironic I came across this post. Someone at work gave me a Joyce Meyer tape series a few weeks ago. I finally popped it into my cassette deck on the way to church this evening. She tells the story of finding out she was the richest woman in her neighborhood by reading a hatchet piece in the newspaper. She said at first the article hurt her feelings until she realized if she was the richest woman in the neighborhood, that means Biblical principles work. She said 20 years earlier she was buying her clothes at goodwill, driving a 20 year old car, renting a dump now she has a testimony that the blessings of the Lord maketh rich and adds no sorrow to it.

The insinuation of this post is disturbing. If the principle is the pastor should not have a better home than most of his members, our pastor would live in a trailer with cars on blocks in his front yard.

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Originally Posted by justasaint

I believe this is Benards home ,and if not ,I still know many Pastors whose homes are well above the price of most members in thier churches.

Just wondering not pointing.

Could a church culture be leading some in the wrong direction ?

tv1a · #53 04-02-2008, 09:42 PM

I don't think he's going to make a million dollars off of his books. And it is okay to collect a salary from his church if he is the pastor. The pastor should be compensated for his time. His book deals are secondary to his pastor. If should be the pastor choice to put his salary back into the church.

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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

Well, in the case of Bernard, I'd say it's fair for him to collect all of his book's royalties, I mean that's just fair. I don't know how much that'd bring in, but lets say it brought in a million (maybe I'm way off here, I probably am) then he gets that money and he can do whatever he wants. But, it's probably not wise for him to collect a salary from the church if this is the situation...

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Margies3 · #54 04-02-2008, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

Well, in the case of Bernard, I'd say it's fair for him to collect all of his book's royalties, I mean that's just fair. I don't know how much that'd bring in, but lets say it brought in a million (maybe I'm way off here, I probably am) then he gets that money and he can do whatever he wants. But, it's probably not wise for him to collect a salary from the church if this is the situation...

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Why not? if he works for the church (that IS his job, after all) then he should be paid for his job.

If you work a day job you expect to be paid for it even if you write a best selling book in the evening on your own time and make a million dollars off that best selling book. You still wouldn't work your day job for free.

Cindy · #55 04-02-2008, 09:51 PM

tv1a & Margie I agree with your posts.

Sept5SavedTeen · #56 04-02-2008, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Margies3

Why not? if he works for the church (that IS his job, after all) then he should be paid for his job.

If you work a day job you expect to be paid for it even if you write a best selling book in the evening on your own time and make a million dollars off that best selling book. You still wouldn't work your day job for free.

Ok, I can see your point.

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Sept5SavedTeen · #57 04-02-2008, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cneasttx

I LOVE MY PASTOR. And I do think most pastor's do a great job and that it's not my job to police their money. If athletes and movie stars can have palatial homes and expensive vehicles why not a pastor? They deserve it more. Why don't we pay our pastor's and missionaries more? I don't think it's right for any church to struggle, but thankfully most pastor's are not making earthly treasures the most important thing in life.

Absolutely NOT! Not storing up your treasures here on Earth really is the principle here. Pastors should make nothing comparable to atheletes and movie stars, it is not wise, neither is it necessary, neither is it humble. Comfort is fine for a pastor to live in, but this sort of oppulence is what the false church has its pastors living in (ie. Benny Hinn, Joyce Meyer ect...) and it should not be said of those in GOD's Church.

Also, being a servant is the Bible's command for anyone that would want to minister, now I can't imagine a servant living in a mansion, sorry I just don't see it.

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

AmazingGrace · #58 04-02-2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Margies3

Why not? if he works for the church (that IS his job, after all) then he should be paid for his job.

If you work a day job you expect to be paid for it even if you write a best selling book in the evening on your own time and make a million dollars off that best selling book. You still wouldn't work your day job for free.

Very true.. that would be just stupid! I mean first thing one has to look at is the thing you mentioned. They work hard and deserve the pay... many do not take it as the churches cannot afford it but if they can then by all means please take a salary.

Second... As we all know too well. UPC.. and any other oneness organizations and a lot of non apostolic ones too... do not provide for retirement. Let them take this salary and any profits he gets from books etc... He will need it and I am sure Bernard who was the main one addressed in this persons post... is a wise investor... and will plan properly for his retirement and the future of his family. Just common sense! Some need to look at the big picture and not criticize for those who take a salary and look at their future and what they are doing for the kingdom and would Jesus not want them well taken care of here on earth????

AmazingGrace · #59 04-02-2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

Absolutely NOT! Not storing up your treasures here on Earth really is the principle here. Pastors should make nothing comparable to atheletes and movie stars, it is not wise, neither is it necessary, neither is it humble. Comfort is fine for a pastor to live in, but this sort of oppulence is what the false church has its pastors living in (ie. Benny Hinn, Joyce Meyer ect...) and it should not be said of those in GOD's Church.

Also, being a servant is the Bible's command for anyone that would want to minister, now I can't imagine a servant living in a mansion, sorry I just don't see it.

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

How old are you? Your a teenager right? You have no clue whatsoever!!! First begin pastoring a church then tell us what a pastor should and should not have. There is nothing wrong with them having a home that costs a million or so... here thats pretty much the norm of a decent home anyways... Go to certain areas of florida and if you can find a decent home for less then that more power to ya... You need to not condemn before you walk in those shoes ... and would you not want your pastor to have the best? Now I do not believe a mansion or tons of cars or any of that is necessary. I do not agree with the Hinn lifestyle or those who have many homes and cars and spend like money is candy but there is a huge difference!

Cindy · #60 04-02-2008, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen

Absolutely NOT! Not storing up your treasures here on Earth really is the principle here. Pastors should make nothing comparable to atheletes and movie stars, it is not wise, neither is it necessary, neither is it humble. Comfort is fine for a pastor to live in, but this sort of oppulence is what the false church has its pastors living in (ie. Benny Hinn, Joyce Meyer ect...) and it should not be said of those in GOD's Church.

Also, being a servant is the Bible's command for anyone that would want to minister, now I can't imagine a servant living in a mansion, sorry I just don't see it.

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

I said they deserve it more. And I agree with your post. Some of my post was TIC and some wasn't sorry about the confusion. I am just kind of angry about this whole thread which seem to have been started to bash UPC pastor's. A common theme by a few here on AFF.