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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Ferd, when your done peeking into the hearts of men ... maybe you will address the message and stop attacking the messenger ...
It goes to our various other discussions as to what is bothering you ... as I asked you to do before my exile
Your message is not getting enough play here and is being defended, imo, w/ little effectiveness.
Your ire has now manifested in a series of posts directed and painting me as you see me .... a threat to what you believe is truth.
You are now exerting little effort in theological discussion but rather in bitter sounding snide remarks.
You may want to re-examine what's really bothering you ... as I asked you to do before me leaving ... but we got bogged down on bridges.
I know my return here is not what you wanted having participated in the spearheading effort to have me banned
but the whining gets old after awhile .... since I am here, now.
Grab some iron, Ferd and sharpen ours ...
And yes I believe Water and Spirit doctrine ... is extrabiblical ...
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Well you do have a couple of things right DanA. I DID spend a good bit of time working to get you banned that last time.
AFTER having defended you for months. In fact on at least 2 occasions, I was among a group that worked to get your banning overturned.
You are also correct that I have waisted little time in an attempt at any real dialogue of a scriptural nature. I as you say I have directed no small amount of "ire" (I love that word. it is a big little word those awe some of my favorite).
But you are mistaken in stating it is "directed and painting me (DanA) as you see me .... a threat to what you believe is truth."
It is directed at insuring everyone understands the game DanA. It isn't based on how i precieve you, rather it is about dealing with what you have posted. what your very overt game is.
You are also right that I have posted no few snide remarks. There is however, no bitterness. No, not bitterness. Cynical perhaps, certainly satrical and acidic. but not bitter my friend. If it were bitterness you would see every single exchange between us being that way. we have debated, discussed and even agreed on other things since youve been back.
I even accepted your friendship request.
Before we get to what it is about, Lets all remember a couple of things.
I am the one who came up with the term Infernal Document way back on FaithChildForum.
I have always said that the UPCI ought to be home to both the PCI view as well as the Water Spirit view. No one has been more direct and harsh in dealing with those who wanted to kick the PCI guys out of the UPCI than I have.
No one has been a bigger critic of the Westburg Amendment than me my friend. But that does bring us to
you and why I have taken the tack I have taken. and why you can be quite assured of the fact that I will continue.
YOU arent of the PCI view. at least not in the since of those who were happy thank you very much to remain within the UPCI. No your view is equal to the Westburg amendment. where it sought to extinguish the PCI view, YOU seek to extinguish the Water Spirit view.
Tell me DanA, why would I be less harsh in dealing with you than I have been in dealing with the Infernal Document?
Why would I give you a pass in your attempt to drive the Water Spirit doctrine into the closet of heracy?
Why DanA am I able to activley discuss these issues with others who believe the PCI view with respect but with you it is about something different?
DanA, I think you are a great person. As I have said, people I have great respect for call you friend. That means something. but on this one issue, you actively seek something that I cant stand, and it isnt the doctrine you believe. It is what you do with that doctrine.
I hope that clears up the matter. in the words of shakspere, Lay on McDuff!
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