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02-28-2008, 05:02 PM
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Jellybean!
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Re: The loss of a General Board Member
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Originally Posted by Neckstadt
You have to respect those who go out with a flare...
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Uuummm...did you mean go out with flair???
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02-28-2008, 05:11 PM
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Re: The loss of a General Board Member
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Originally Posted by TRFrance
*sigh*
Wishful thinking, if I've ever seen it.
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Ok, if you say so. My point in all of this is that getting rid of the Ultracons is not going to help the UPC unless there is a fundamental change. I see TV being the best way to bring about that change.
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02-28-2008, 05:13 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: The loss of a General Board Member
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Originally Posted by deltaguitar
Ok, if you say so. My point in all of this is that getting rid of the Ultracons is not going to help the UPC unless there is a fundamental change. I see TV being the best way to bring about that change.
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The problem with the UCs being in the UPC is that typically UCs don't fellowship anyone that is not a UC...what is the point? What balance do they bring when they are infact a fringe element within the UPC?
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Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-28-2008, 05:16 PM
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Re: The loss of a General Board Member
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Originally Posted by TRFrance
I liken it to the process of childbirth.
Childbirth is a difficult, often painful process, but when the child is born, everyone's happy and smiling afterward.
Similarly, when God is birthing a new thing in the spirit realm, it often will cause upheaval and even division among His body of believers, but when all is said and done, the Kingdom is better off for it.
In the end, this may end up being addition by subtraction, to the glory of God.
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Surprisingly, I felt the Spirit as I read this post! 
And I am totally against church splits!!!!
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02-28-2008, 05:18 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: The loss of a General Board Member
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
Surprisingly, I felt the Spirit as I read this post!
And I am totally against church splits!!!! |
how about splits in skirts?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-28-2008, 05:19 PM
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Re: The loss of a General Board Member
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
how about splits in skirts?
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It depends! Are pants considered skirt splits?
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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02-28-2008, 05:25 PM
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Re: The loss of a General Board Member
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
The problem with the UCs being in the UPC is that typically UCs don't fellowship anyone that is not a UC...what is the point? What balance do they bring when they are infact a fringe element within the UPC?
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Right. Then why does everyone want to see them go.
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02-28-2008, 05:26 PM
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Renewed
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Re: The loss of a General Board Member
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Originally Posted by deltaguitar
Ok, if you say so. My point in all of this is that getting rid of the Ultracons is not going to help the UPC unless there is a fundamental change. I see TV being the best way to bring about that change.
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Why are non UPC trying to help UPC.?
Why do non UPC think they know what is best for UPC?
Is that not the very spiritual arrogance the same accuses of UPC?
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02-28-2008, 05:27 PM
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Senor Gunsmoke
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Re: The loss of a General Board Member
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Originally Posted by NLYP
I Just received this email......
I first emailed the GB member and asked this question...
On Feb 27, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Daniel Christensen wrote:
> Hello
> Hope all is well....
> Its all over the web.....the General Boards Meeting...
> Can you clarify?
> What exactly happened....
> WAY too many assumptions are being made.....
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> Bro Dan
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The response...
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To: Daniel Christensen <revdac777@yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 1:55:38 PM
Subject: Re: HEY!
Hi Dan, yes the Board did vote that you couldn't belong to two org. One thing I thought interesting was, Johnny King turned in his license, and said to the board that he could not go the way the org. was going, He couldn't be in an org. that wouldn't uphold the beliefs that are in the manual. so he resigned publicly there at a board meeting.
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Dont ask......I posted all that needs to be known.
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As I understand it, there will be much more information released about this meeting. All of it leaked, of course.
Sounds like quite the bomb.
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02-28-2008, 05:38 PM
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Re: The loss of a General Board Member
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Originally Posted by scotty
Why are non UPC trying to help UPC.?
Why do non UPC think they know what is best for UPC?
Is that not the very spiritual arrogance the same accuses of UPC?
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I guess I would actually like to see the UPC succeed. They are the best oneness organization going and with a few changes could be an amazing organization.
I did spend the last 27 years of my life in a UPC church and have only been out of the mothership for the last 7 months.
My sister and her husband are ministers in the UPC and my wife's brother is going to get his local license this year. My wife's family are pioneers in the UPC movement. It is the only org I know.
However, now that I am on the outside looking in, and not having to defend the UPC every single day of my life, it is a lot easier to admit to the problems that the UPC is facing.
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