How wide is the effect of forums in Pentecost?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by keith4him

In the US we have the right to speak, but not the right to be heard. The marketplace or audience gives us that, there is a hunger for truth, both good and bad. I understand the whole edification principle, but the scripture doesn't hold back from both the good and bad and ugly side of God's people.

Matter of fact in teaching on the inspiration of scripture, that has always been a powerful truth to the veracity of scripture, because if I was God I would have left a lot out that didn't make his children look God.

Abraham's lies, David's Adultery and Murdering, Peter's pride and compulsivity, Paul's duplicity in the persecution of the early church, oh yeah and John's nudity.

Transparency is sorely missing in the Church, Keith ... I agree.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Sherri

What used to be discussed among ministers in private without fear of anyone being able to "prove" anything that was said, is now broadcast on forums and emails that can be used to make someone accountable. The same things have always been discussed and argued over, it's just now available for everyone to see. It has put fear in alot of people. I'm glad that I only have to answer to God and not worry about what I say on here.

Sherri this is a very good post, and so true, it has definitely been an eye opening experience.

[Jehoram]

Originally Posted by Alter Ego

I have no desire to see a "stifling" of ideas. I do think that we ministers have a responsibility to think of those who are weak in the faith.

How will our words impact them?

It all goes back to liberty and wisdom.

Let me clarify what I meant here.

There are some here who may believed we are saved at repentance, but they also believe that baptism and HG infilling are inescapable events in the life of a believer.

In their hearts they possess the experiences and culture of Oneness Pentecostalism of decades past.

They do not understand that when they post against more traditional water and spirit positions that the appearance is they believe baptism and HG infilling are completely unnecessary.

So a new poster may come away with that understanding. In that sense, we have done them a great harm.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Alter Ego

Let me clarify what I meant here.

There are some here who may believed we are saved at repentance, but they also believe that baptism and HG infilling are inescapable events in the life of a believer.

In their hearts they possess the experiences and culture of Oneness Pentecostalism of decades past.

They do not understand that when they post against more traditional water and spirit positions that the appearance is they believe baptism and HG infilling are completely unnecessary.

So a new poster may come away with that understanding. In that sense, we have done them a great harm.

I haven't seen this ... AE ... I think that someone who has the traditional view might be rattled at their theological position being rattled ... but by no means have these experiences been portrayed as completely unnecessary ... the position has always been necessary for obedience.

It's incumbent, I believe, on the proponents of W&S to articulate their position better w/o whining or playing "victim" when they are losing a debate.

Perspective is everything.

[Jehoram]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I haven't seen this ... AE ... I think that someone who has the traditional view might be rattled at their theological position being rattled ... but by no means have these experiences been portrayed as completely unnecessary ... the position has always been necessary for obedience.

It's incumbent I believe on the proponents of W&S to articulate their position better w/o whining or playing "victim" when they are losing a debate.

Perspective is everything.

I do not understand the statement in bold.

Can you clarify?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Alter Ego

I do not understand the statement in bold.

Can you clarify?

My suggestion is rather than cry saying your side is being attacked ... or I'm being disrespected ... if anything remotely challenges one's view

(especially if your side is known for claiming any other view is hell-bound, ungodly or in false doctrine) ...

how about articulating your position, whatever it is, clearly, logically and scripturally ... or resorting to censorship.

[Jehoram]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

My suggestion is rather than cry saying your side is being attacked ... or I'm being disrespected ...

(especially if your side is known for claiming any other view is hell-bound, ungodly or false doctrine) ...

how about articulating your position, whatever it is, clearly, logically and scripturally.

Danny, you're a purdy smart fella.

I'm sure you have heard of Dos network attacks. They successfully render a server useless due to the flood of data being sent to it.

Sometimes we experience those sort of attacks here at AFF. Just because there is a flood of data doesn''t mean the data is correct.

Often it is a ruse used to divert attention from the real agenda of a hacker.

Some folks choose to just abandon this server for another one.

Understand?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Alter Ego

Danny, you're a purdy smart fella.

I'm sure you have heard of Dos network attacks. They successfully render a server useless due to the flood of data being sent to the destination server.

Sometimes we experience those sort of attacks here at AFF. Just because there is a flood of data doesn''t mean the data is correct.

Often it is a ruse used to divert attention from the real agenda of a hacker.

Some folks choose to just abandon this server for another one.

Understand?

Yo comprendo. See Millie Vanilli... Blame it on the rain.

[Jehoram]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Yo comprendo. See Millie Vanilli... Blame it on the rain.

Funny, didn't they win a grammy?

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Alter Ego

Funny, didn't they win a grammy?

Yes they did ... for posing.