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12-19-2007, 09:23 AM
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Invisible Thad
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Originally Posted by Pastor G
The list is premature and an assumption at best... And we all should know what assuming does... The list is what they hope... All of these men have not committed to go...
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I don't believe that.You are trying to tell me that they are just putting people on a list as leaders of a new organization in HOPES they will be apart??? I cannot imagine waking up one day and finding my name on the list of the general council of some new group. TLC is on their list as well as Chris(youth secretary). you are saying they have NO knowledge of this?? and made NO consent to having their name apart of it??
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12-19-2007, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Thad
I don't believe that.You are trying to tell me that they are just putting people on a list as leaders of a new organization in HOPES they will be apart??? I cannot imagine waking up one day and finding my name on the list of the general council of some new group. TLC is on their list as well as Chris(youth secretary). you are saying they have NO knowledge of this?? and made NO consent to having their name apart of it??
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As I said before, which you seem to have ignored, i suppose because it didn't stir things up enough for you... Wayne McClain told me to my face last week that he was only going to Tulsa, "cause it doesn't hurt to hear what they say." When LB called him, he told him he wasn't interested.. As I said before, I don't see eye with Bro. McClain on to many issues, however he is an extreme gentleman and most certainly a man of his word..
I also know that HQ has been in contact with some of these men on the list and they have mentioned that they have been courted, but weren't going anywhere... Some on there aren't even going to Tulsa... Those told some at HQ that this was a list of hopefuls at best...
They are throwing that out there so that all of the ones they are trying to get to come will see that they are not alone... However, I believe it will backfire... Some that were really considering getting in on the ground floor of this new thing now see that everything seems to have been already set in place... It was billed as a formation conference to a lot of folks and now to them, it appears that the formaton has already taken place and they will have no say... That has ticked several off since the list was made available...
Really, who knows, and who really cares?
As I have said on here before, if they want to go, GO! It will be a lot easier for us to get some more things passed if they do... Perhaps we can bring the manual up to the 21st century now....
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12-19-2007, 10:42 AM
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Invisible Thad
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Originally Posted by Pastor G
As I said before, which you seem to have ignored, i suppose because it didn't stir things up enough for you... Wayne McClain told me to my face last week that he was only going to Tulsa, "cause it doesn't hurt to hear what they say." When LB called him, he told him he wasn't interested.. As I said before, I don't see eye with Bro. McClain on to many issues, however he is an extreme gentleman and most certainly a man of his word..
I also know that HQ has been in contact with some of these men on the list and they have mentioned that they have been courted, but weren't going anywhere... Some on there aren't even going to Tulsa... Those told some at HQ that this was a list of hopefuls at best...
They are throwing that out there so that all of the ones they are trying to get to come will see that they are not alone... However, I believe it will backfire... Some that were really considering getting in on the ground floor of this new thing now see that everything seems to have been already set in place... It was billed as a formation conference to a lot of folks and now to them, it appears that the formaton has already taken place and they will have no say... That has ticked several off since the list was made available...
Really, who knows, and who really cares?
As I have said on here before, if they want to go, GO! It will be a lot easier for us to get some more things passed if they do... Perhaps we can bring the manual up to the 21st century now....
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No need to get Snappy PG.Much of your post makes a great deal of sense.In fact,I posted a news flash about the very thing up said here(underlined).
I'm not sure what else you are referring to that needs to be passed or changed in the manual- care to enlighten?
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12-19-2007, 10:43 AM
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Psalm 121
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Originally Posted by Pastor G
As I said before, which you seem to have ignored, i suppose because it didn't stir things up enough for you... Wayne McClain told me to my face last week that he was only going to Tulsa, "cause it doesn't hurt to hear what they say." When LB called him, he told him he wasn't interested.. As I said before, I don't see eye with Bro. McClain on to many issues, however he is an extreme gentleman and most certainly a man of his word..
I also know that HQ has been in contact with some of these men on the list and they have mentioned that they have been courted, but weren't going anywhere... Some on there aren't even going to Tulsa... Those told some at HQ that this was a list of hopefuls at best...
They are throwing that out there so that all of the ones they are trying to get to come will see that they are not alone... However, I believe it will backfire... Some that were really considering getting in on the ground floor of this new thing now see that everything seems to have been already set in place... It was billed as a formation conference to a lot of folks and now to them, it appears that the formaton has already taken place and they will have no say... That has ticked several off since the list was made available...
Really, who knows, and who really cares?
As I have said on here before, if they want to go, GO! It will be a lot easier for us to get some more things passed if they do... Perhaps we can bring the manual up to the 21st century now....
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PG, You are one of the greatest!!! Right up there with Dora. I'm wth you, bro.
Let's 'Get 'er done'!!!  I'm LingOL
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13 You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. 14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other. Galatians 5:13-15 (NIV)
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12-19-2007, 10:46 AM
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PG, You are one of the greatest!!! Right up there with Dora. I'm wth you, bro.
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i would love to see this '21st century manual. I can imagine reading that would be a hoot! Would you fellas like to give us a sampling of the 21st century verbiage you would put in a UPCI 21st century AOF? I really would like to see at least the laundry list of changes. 
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12-19-2007, 10:51 AM
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Psalm 121
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Originally Posted by philjones
i would love to see this '21st century manual. I can imagine reading that would be a hoot! Would you fellas like to give us a sampling of the 21st century verbiage you would put in a UPCI 21st century AOF? I really would like to see at least the laundry list of changes. |
 O you little pot stirrer you.  We'll see. I'm trying to prepare my Bible study for church tonite.
Still LingOL
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13 You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. 14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other. Galatians 5:13-15 (NIV)
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12-19-2007, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Thad
I went to Aqua when it was in CA. and the crowd was good.
you and Verlon said TLC and CC was not getting out BUT LOW AND BEHOLD!!!! have you read their latest list ????
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Stay tuned Thad . . . I am hearing there are several furious because names are on the list when they said their minds were not yet made up. Now they are telling them....we don't want anything thing to do with Tulsa and new WWF org. 
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12-19-2007, 11:03 AM
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Invisible Thad
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I went to Aqua when it was in CA. and the crowd was good.
you and Verlon said TLC and CC was not getting out BUT LOW AND BEHOLD!!!! have you read their latest list ????
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Stay tuned Thad . . . I am hearing there are several furious because names are on the list when they said their minds were not yet made up. Now they are telling them....we don't want anything thing to do with Tulsa and new WWF org. |
can i get you to start a thread on this ??
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12-19-2007, 11:10 AM
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My Family!
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Stay tuned Thad . . . I am hearing there are several furious because names are on the list when they said their minds were not yet made up. Now they are telling them....we don't want anything thing to do with Tulsa and new WWF org. |
What Pastor G and D have said here is very disturbing. Talk about bait and switch or hopeful thinking or completely misleading people..........my goodness.
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12-19-2007, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
What Pastor G and D have said here is very disturbing. Talk about bait and switch or hopeful thinking or completely misleading people..........my goodness.
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It is a bit perplexing to think the organizers of Tulsa would be so.. dare I say it... stupid!
I continue to maintain, as I think my dear friend DA has maintained, it is all
RABID SPECULATION!
I suggest that we should all let it be what it is going to be and when it becomes what it is going to become then we analyze what is rather than what isn't! 
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