* D. Bernard speaks out against forum *

[SDG]

Originally Posted by staysharp

DB does not believe water saves you either.

I don't see any evidence that he has abandoned the doctrine of baptismal regeneration ... Also his views on justification are among the most extreme among PAJCers.

[Scott Hutchinson]

I'll give DB grace being in a Pastoral position teaches one alot of things.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

I'll give DB grace being in a Pastoral position teaches one alot of things.

It's a tightrope that he and others in the upper echalon of the org leadership will have to traverse in the years to come ... they don't want to appear as if they are abandoning holiness ... yet clearly their has been change.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Seeing some things differenly doesn't mean one is abandoning Holiness,actually it can mean they are embracing True Holiness.

[Thad]

CHill Out DAN!!!

[TRIPLE E]

Originally Posted by Thad

Keith you do know that Bro Riggen may read your comment don't you ?

Who cares Thad,Keith is right!

[Thad]

Originally Posted by TRIPLE E

Who cares Thad,Keith is right!

O MY!!! wow

[staysharp]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I don't see any evidence that he has abandoned the doctrine of baptismal regeneration ... Also his views on justification are among the most extreme among PAJCers.

"There is also agreement that these steps do not constitute salvation by works. Rather, they are applications of the grace o God, purchased by the blood of Jesus Christ, and they are expressions of faith in God."

He calls it "Three steps of faith".

David K Bernard, A History of Christian Doctrine Vol.3 p.112-113

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

Seeing some things differenly doesn't mean one is abandoning Holiness,actually it can mean they are embracing True Holiness.

Agreed ... yet there seems to me that some of the apparatchiks want to appeal to those who want to HOLD DOWN THE FORT while also advocating a semi-PROGRESSIVE agenda.

This is simply my own personal analysis .....

It's based on the recent letters he's written on the TV issue, this forum thread post, what others who know him have said, and his letter to me when I resigned.

DB told me in response to my letter of resignation ...

I am praying that God will truly give us answers that will satisfy the majority and help us to move forward. I am hoping that ministers such as you will be part of the solution.

If you continue to affirm these provisions, then I believe it will be a mistake for you to leave the UPCI. You will limit your ministry and your ability to influence our movement.

[TRIPLE E]

Originally Posted by Thad

O MY!!! wow

Enough is Enough! No MO!