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12-01-2007, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Add the doctrine of baptismal regeneration and we might as well start implementing rosary beads during the morning vespers.
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Get out... A large portion of non Catholics practice a form of baptismal regeneration. They might even be saved in spite of it.
Rosary beads. 
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12-01-2007, 09:46 PM
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In a word, "YES!"  (among other traditions we thing are biblical because we have superimposed them "backwards" upon the scriptures and declared that it was the "way" it was done back then. |
Hey MOW, when you do the whole meal thingy with Chardonnay... let me know please...
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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12-01-2007, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Because the early church took wine for communion very simple.
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ding! ding-ding-ding-ding!!!
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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12-01-2007, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Hey MOW, when you do the whole meal thingy with Chardonnay... let me know please...
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Probably going to be a Zinfandel! Or maybe just some good ol' MD 20 20!!!!! Whooooooooeeeeee!
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12-01-2007, 10:28 PM
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By the way... I hate the taste of alcohol in wine, and so does most of my church, so we do the grape juice thing...
Just in case someone wanted to lob a grenade about being a bunch of lushes over in this direction...
I do cook with it occasionally though. Adds a richness to dishes after most of the alkihawl is cooked out.
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12-01-2007, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Rosary beads. |
Who's she?
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12-01-2007, 10:57 PM
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Didn't the early church use Passover wine for the ordinance of communion?
But we really have fellowship with Christ spiritually by or through the Holy Ghost.
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12-02-2007, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ManOfWord
Oh, Grasshopper! It is not the USE of the wine that Paul had a problem with. It was the ABUSE of the "nectar" that Paul was rebuking. The Bible NEVER condemns the use of wine. It always condemns the abuse of wine. Biblically, wine was not forbidden. However, drunkenness and the debauchery associated with it were always condemned.
I cannot, as an honest minister of the gospel, standing on the plain words of the Bible, prohibit the consumption of wine. In all actuality, I can prohibit it with MY words, but not with God's words.
Everyone has a right and a duty to follow their own convictions. But we cannot preach our convictions as God's word. It is a VERY dangerous thing to mess with God's word.
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Folks, we have a winner ratchere... (For you who don't understand Redneckese, thats 'Right here".) Besides, if Paul rebuked the use of wine at Communion, wouldn't that make him a little hypocritical? He advised Timothy in 1Ti 5:23 to: Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities. Not only did he not forbid its use, but he actually encouraged its use. I have never found anu Bible that expressly forbids the consumption of wine, but plenty to forbid its abuse!
So MOW, once again, you've rode into town with a voice of reason and something in short supply these days... COMMON SENSE.
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12-02-2007, 09:49 AM
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SH,
I just think you are trying to prove to your wife that alcohol is okay because you think it's the only way that cradle is going to get filled!!! 
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12-02-2007, 10:53 AM
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crakjak
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Originally Posted by ILG
SH,
I just think you are trying to prove to your wife that alcohol is okay because you think it's the only way that cradle is going to get filled!!! |
Where is NLYP? He is the resident expert on medicating Drama Queen with wine. Wonder if he joins her? MOW, be careful what you give license for, approx. 25% of the population is predisposed to alcoholism. 
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