Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
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Originally Posted by shazeep
You wanna stick to judging, you go ahead; i can't stop you. But i would go back to persecuting church members for lapsed standards if i were you--at least then you may safely veer from Scripture. All of Scripture.
Do you live in the United States?
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Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
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Originally Posted by houston
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yes, Houston--but we are Christian, and so first need to explain "bashing babies heads in" in Psalms, and some other uncomfortable passages. My guess is that those verses are in the Qur'an to reveal the evil hearts over there, just like we have Paul for lawyers to bash people with here. The Beginning of Sur'ahs, the very first page of the Qur'an, plainly states that anyone using the Qur'an to justify violence is not a Muslim. So, It is as ambiguous as the Bible, iow. Jihad may be defined as "the struggle" or "holy war," and one's heart is revealed in the defining.
but again, since you may not have read it, this is not about the salvational state of Muslims. Saying "All Muslims are lost" tells me nothing about Muslims, and has not ever sent a single Muslim to hell. It is entirely a commentary upon the one who says it. We are of course raised with it, from the cradle, so that it may be assumed as a matter of course; which makes it permissible to commit all manner of atrocities with your tacit blessing.
I don't care if every, single Muslim is ruthlessly seeking Christians to lop off their heads--that still would not change your mandate--but you might ask yourself if they are so bent on your destruction, why can they get up 6 or 8 thousand dollars to flee from the wars we create for them, but none of them has ever so much as knocked on your door, nor anyone you know--not even apostate Muslims, much less devout ones.
It is an illusion. You are being lied to, and so are they. You will either buy the lie, and perceive an enemy--thereby, eventually, creating one--or you will see the illusion. Are we not told--quoting Christ again, not Paul, sorry lawyers--to not fear a man, who can merely kill you, but to fear God? "All Muslims Are Lost" condemns you, and is the source of all the turmoil we are experiencing only indirectly--which is a bad enough sin, as we fund it directly enough.
God seems to always side with the oppressed--and we have internet now, so "gee, Fox News never showed me that" is gonna be a pretty lame excuse.
Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
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Originally Posted by shazeep
i'm pretty sure Paul stuck to "Judge not, lest you be judged," and reserved his condemnation for evildoers within the church. I am not here to critique Paul. 2) Then by all means list all of the times Muslims have approached you or yours to convert you to Islam, and we might go from there. But that would not change how you are called to conduct yourself, imo.
right! you are not here to deal with what Paul did and said.
you are here to stick you finger in the eyeball of people who are biblically doing the right thing.
because you've decided to take the bible and cut it up and use it to your own purpose.
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Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
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Originally Posted by Ferd
right! you are not here to deal with what Paul did and said.
you are here to stick you finger in the eyeball of people who are biblically doing the right thing.
because you've decided to take the bible and cut it up and use it to your own purpose.
That is because Shazeeple is a Troll.
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Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
if that makes you feel better, then i am a troll. Whatever. At least i am not calling you names, and scoffing. There is a difference in being wrong, and being evil.
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Originally Posted by Ferd
right! you are not here to deal with what Paul did and said.
you are here to stick you finger in the eyeball of people who are biblically doing the right thing.
because you've decided to take the bible and cut it up and use it to your own purpose.
well, that is your pov, but you have not shown it to be true. You might also say that i am following in Paul's footsteps, speaking to my peers, and not judging outsiders. Which part of the Bible are you using as your mandate for this, again? I never got that part. I am quoting Christ, and God, here--you are replying with Paul's letters to the Church, that you should be holding your churches to.
I'm not here making a bunch of wild unsupported accusations; i am just saying that All Muslims Are Lost--from your own lips--does not go with "Love Your Neighbor" or even Paul's "don't judge outsiders," or the Good Samaritan, or the First Son, or, or, or. And another thing--i am not here to change your mind. You will do what you will do. I am here to witness the fruit of All Muslims Are Lost on Christians, so that when God asks you why you financed and approved mass murder, and you seem to be ok with bodies washing up on beaches, you will have a ready answer, sitting in your nice little mortgaged house, "eating, and wiping your mouth, and saying you have done nothing wrong."
Re: Question about Acts 2:38: What about the marty
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Originally Posted by shazeep
if that makes you feel better, then i am a troll. Whatever. At least i am not calling you names, and scoffing. There is a difference in being wrong, and being evil.
You just like telling Apostolics they are lost for saying Muslims are lost.
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