Timmy Talk

[Timmy]

Oh, here's another one. Two, actually.

1 Corinthians 12:3
Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

Literal or figurative?

Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Literal or figurative?

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Oh, here's another one. Two, actually.

1 Corinthians 12:3
Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

Literal or figurative?

Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Literal or figurative?

Literal and it means that people with the Holy Ghost can go to Hell? Is that really a suprise?

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Literal and it means that people with the Holy Ghost can go to Hell? Is that really a suprise?

Nothing surprises me, anymore.

But, really? Do you think that's true? If it's true, it's really weird.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Nothing surprises me, anymore.

But, really? Do you think that's true? If it's true, it's really weird.

Its not weird until you throw that passage from Romans 8 into the mix. That one that implies those with the Spirit of Christ will make it into heaven.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Nothing surprises me, anymore.

But, really? Do you think that's true? If it's true, it's really weird.

I think its true that its not those with the Holy Ghost that do miracles but its those with the Holy Ghost that do the will of the Father

Men can have the Holy Ghost and still not do right all the while calling Jesus Lord. But they are still as lost as two boys kissing! (Taken from the posts of Epley)

[Paws4It]

But, I thought the miracles are in the name of Jesus, so even those without the Holy Ghost, that have the faith in the name, can do miracles. 0_o

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Paws4It

But, I thought the miracles are in the name of Jesus, so even those without the Holy Ghost, that have the faith in the name, can do miracles. 0_o

I'm not sure I see your point.

[Paws4It]

Ok, I reread your answer and I guess I got off in left field. Oops!

[Paws4It]

Here's one for your opinion. What I want to know is how far does 'leave' mean? Does it mean not taking care of the parents when they are elderly? I see a lot of young people taking this literally and acting like this scripture gives them the freedom to block their parents, family, out of their lives. What do you think?

Mar 10:7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Paws4It

Here's one for your opinion. What I want to know is how far does 'leave' mean? Does it mean not taking care of the parents when they are elderly? I see a lot of young people taking this literally and acting like this scripture gives them the freedom to block their parents, family, out of their lives. What do you think?

Mar 10:7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;

I believe this is more akin to "leaving the house" so to speak.

On a another note however. I have had a strained relationship with my mother at one point when she had feelings about my wife I felt were inappropriate. I took the side of my wife letting my mother know that she could accept us both or none at all. She come around and in the end found out her feelings were wrong. We have a wonderful relationship today.