Why I Am A Futurist - Page 58

mfblume · #**571** 03-04-2015, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

I didnt say that Mike.....
Here is verbatim what I said....6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.(This represented Jesus as the Lamb of God)

See how you hypocritically answered that?

A hypocritical answer is an answer that you allow for yourself but not someone else who uses the same manner you use.

We both KNOW the LAMB is symbolic. And when I say you twits the bible to say the LAMB is not a LAMB, you claim the lamb represented Jesus, and insist you did not change the term LAMB to MAN.

Open your eyes, bro. That is what we claim about the tree. THE TREE represented the believers as Jesus is the vine and we are the branches. We never CHANGED the words from tree to people any more than you changed LAMB to MAN. So, stop acting the hypocrite by saying we chnage terms when we do the same thing with tree as you did with lamb.

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Full Definition of REPRESENT

transitive verb
1
: to bring clearly before the mind
: to serve as a sign or symbol of
: to portray or exhibit in art : depict
4
: to serve as the counterpart or image of : typify
5
a : to produce on the stage
b : to act the part or role of

Actually, I really dont know for sure what it means(as I said before concerning tough stuff)...I just suggest stuff to start a conversation on tough verses.
Some things may never be known in the book of Revelation until the Lord raptures us out of here.

Oh please. lol. You do not know what it is? But it SAYS LAMB! Just like Rev 22 says TREE, Rev 5 says LAMB. You are not consistent.

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You will never find a book of answering Gods' riddles being written by me!

No, you will only write inconsistent thoughts and guesswork and telling people they're going to hell because they believe a vision uses a symbol, while you attend no church for months and months, and deny resurrection raises bodies incorruptible.

You do not see how saying literal leaves bring immortality shows your belief to be wrong in that interpretation because the rest of the bible, OUTSIDE A VISION, says resurrection makes us immortal. It does not take us to a tree to be immortal, IT MAKES US IMMORTAL itself.

Why do you think Jesus said by their FRUITS ye shall know them?

You said you're confused because the city and the tree speak of us in my words, but yet Psalm 1 speaks of us as trees, and Matt 5 speaks of us as a city. Does the bible confuse you?

Your doctrine is haywire because it conflicts with other scriptures. And you avoid these questions and just become nonsensical in response. Typical.

Sean · #**572** 03-04-2015, 07:35 PM

Like I said Mike...."minor symbolism" is fine, but not the entire book.

You blew it by reinterpreting the entire book of Rev., just because of a "few" symbols found.

Sean · #**573** 03-04-2015, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Show me where anyone said that.

Its in here...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...4cTfDsRMevJd1Q

Guilty by association!

mfblume · #**574** 03-04-2015, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

Like I said Mike...."minor symbolism" is fine, but not the entire book.

verse 1 said the whole book is symbolized. SIGNIFIED. Related by SIGNS. Read it.

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You blew it by reinterpreting the entire book of Rev., just because of a "few" symbols found.

Nope. You are inconsistent and hypocritically answer saying you did not change words when I never did either, but accuse me of doing it.

If I changed tree to church then you changed lamb to man. Sorry, you cannot escape this one. And you made it worse by damning my soul in the meantime.

mfblume · #**575** 03-04-2015, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

Its in here...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...4cTfDsRMevJd1Q

Guilty by association!

First of all, I see nothing on that link that said that, and secondly guilt by association is stupid. It's a mockery term used to show the ridiculous charges people make. And you actually used it! lol

Sean · #**576** 03-04-2015, 07:45 PM

Just trying to shake you up a little bit with the warning that JESUS personally gave, regarding this book.

Its really your call if you want to take a chance with what you are doing.

mfblume · #**577** 03-04-2015, 07:46 PM

So many things you will not answer.

Why do you say there's one gospel if you deny the gospel in these two verses are the same?

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Colossians 1:5-6 For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel; (6) Which is come unto you, as it is in all the world; and bringeth forth fruit, as it doth also in you, since the day ye heard of it, and knew the grace of God in truth:

Have to ask you something dozens of times before you answer it. Typical again.

Sean · #**578** 03-04-2015, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

First of all, I see nothing on that link that said that, and secondly guilt by association is stupid. It's a mockery term used to show the ridiculous charges people make. And you actually used it! lol

I re posted the right one..

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...4cTfDsRMevJd1Q

Verse 27. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west— It is worthy of remark that our Lord, in the most particular manner, points out the very march of the Roman army: they entered into Judea on the EAST, and carried on their conquest WESTWARD, as if not only the extensiveness of the ruin, but the very route which the army would take, were intended in the comparison of the lightning issuing from the east, and shining to the west.

mfblume · #**579** 03-04-2015, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

Just trying to shake you up a little bit with the warning that JESUS personally gave, regarding this book.

Its really your call if you want to take a chance with what you are doing.

No, you are damning me to hell. By their fruits...

mfblume · #**580** 03-04-2015, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean

I re posted the right one..

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...4cTfDsRMevJd1Q

Verse 27. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west— It is worthy of remark that our Lord, in the most particular manner, points out the very march of the Roman army: they entered into Judea on the EAST, and carried on their conquest WESTWARD, as if not only the extensiveness of the ruin, but the very route which the army would take, were intended in the comparison of the lightning issuing from the east, and shining to the west.

He's not saying Rome is Jesus. lol

Sean, read this:

Isaiah 10:5 O Assyrian, the rod of mine anger, and the staff in their hand is mine indignation.

If Assyria was the rod of God's anger, then when Assyria afflicted Jerusalem could you say God afflicted Jerusalem?