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Old 11-20-2008, 04:19 PM
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They should see you after a late night posting after you hit the warm milk.
I hear ya... But it is mostly coffee as you have suggested that gets me...
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:21 PM
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Yep, I got a whipping.

But my family told me it was really funny hearing me try and sing as my dad spanked me.

He should have waited a few days.

From what I remember, I did not feel a thing....

What on earth did you try to sing Neck
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:22 PM
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Hey, Neck what would you do with this heretic!
I would send him some rosary beads...
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:33 PM
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What on earth did you try to sing Neck
My mom told me! All the way home there little drunk was singing..

"This little light of mine, I'm gonna let it shine, Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine!

I sang the same line over like 50 times...

Then my dad turned to my mom in the car and sang...

"And when we get home he's Mine, mine, mine, oh...Yes he's mine"!
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:33 PM
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Brother Beninca, even “dressing up” for church is a pagan practice.
Reading Frank Viola? So the religious Jews dressed the way they did because of the pagans? If you take the time to read Mr. Viola's books and read his footnotes. You will find that Frank Viola is not reading to present Truth, just...his version of it.



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Originally Christians were very plain and common people who met in homes and worshipped informally.
More of Frank's stuff, how big were these homes? Interestingly enough Frank never tells his readers that the homes weren't split level ranches, and a small group drinking Pepsi and eating pizza. From what the archeologists have found that they met in Roman villas able to accommodate groups of close to a hundred people. Back issues of BAR (Biblical Archeology Review) has the articles. Also it was a motto in ancient Rome that stated, "What you wore, was who you are." With that in mind, the early Christians didn't walk around looking like they were shot out of a canon.

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This was Christian custom for nearly 250 or so years. When the Roman state mandated that all worship was to take place in a building, Christians were forced by law to “dress up”.
They were also forced to go to church, and forced to wear a wedding ring, and forced to celebrate the Church holy days, should I go on?


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Reason being, the state sponsored religion of Rome made all Christian clerics officials of the state religion, as the pagan priests and public officials were. It was a dishonor to the office to approach any official in common clothing, therefore any Christian not “dressed up” to meet the official clergy man in the pulpit was escorted out of the congregation, even by force if the cleric requested such…and many did.

Do you, dress up for church like the pagans did?
George Barna and Frank Viola need to ask the question, "did the apostles charge the church for their writings?"

Skewed view of the world, builds for a skewed view of the Faith once delivered unto the saints.

I mean the saints that are speaking in tongues, not the ones that glow in the dark on the dash board of your car.

Next to your swinging rosary.

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I would send him some rosary beads...
He wouldn't take them Neck, it would be better you send him your car.
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He wouldn't take them Neck, it would be better you send him your car.

Not the car!!
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I hear ya... But it is mostly coffee as you have suggested that gets me...
Neck, drink vegetable juice, with Tabasco in it. It's yummy!
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Not the car!!
Yes, the car, but first you must put rims on it.
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Are you against celebrating birthdays?

The Bible doesn't command it...nor does it condemn it. The Bible doesn't command us to set aside a day to remember Christ's birth; but does it condemn the concept?
I have a good friend who is a Roman Catholic priest who has 3 PhDs was in two different orders. Now he is with the Franciscans. Do you know he presents the same arguments for the rosary, and all of their practices and ceremonies?

We see nothing in the Word to practice any festivals of celebration for the baptism of Jesus by John, the birth of Christ, the visitation of the Magi, the day of Pentecost, the resurrection of Christ, or days dedicated to certain saints and apostles. Yet, the same arguments that you present are presented by my Catholic priest friend. Also have a couple who are very close to my wife and I that are both in The Eastern Ukranian Church. They present a similar argument concerning Icons.

Why should we as Christians go back to idolatry and adopt rituals that the Bible never shows us? We as Apostolic Pentecostals adopt the rituals and practices of the Eastern Orthodox, and the Roman Church. Yet, the early church was Jewish, and the converted Gentiles were taught by Jews.

No Jew would’ve worshiped the flesh of Christ, because they didn't see Him as worshiping a 30 year old Jew, but God in human flesh. Jesus never gave the flesh worship but gave the Spirit worship. Jesus said why callest me good, there is one good that is God alone. So the focus of worship is God the Spirit and not the human flesh and image of man. Jesus is all in all, and is the one true living God. He doesn't become a baby every year, and re-crucified every spring to rise again, and again, at the dawning of the morning.

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