The Persecution of Women in the Church

[chseeads]

It's funny how you don't see many women playing the drums.....


Oh.....wait....that says persecution, not percussion.....

Nevermind.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by crazyhomie

My sisters did make me wash dishes when I was growning up. Does that count?

You must have read Schopenhauer.

Not bad.

Question: Are you familiar with the "sacred feminine" concept, and have you studied it?

Originally Posted by The Mrs

It was just a question...I was just curious. I guess I'll have to go study up on it to be able to answer YOUR questions.

Seems like the examples in scripture throughout the OT show that women weren't exactly treated as they are nowadays. i.e. polygamus marriages, no inheritance, arranged marriages, separation in the tabernacle. Were those things instructed by God? Or just a part of the culture of man?

What about Sarah calling Abraham Lord and walking behind him...(lol) This spirit of denegration is as old as dirt.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by The Mrs

It was just a question...I was just curious. I guess I'll have to go study up on it to be able to answer YOUR questions.

Seems like the examples in scripture throughout the OT show that women weren't exactly treated as they are nowadays. i.e. polygamus marriages, no inheritance, arranged marriages, separation in the tabernacle. Were those things instructed by God? Or just a part of the culture of man?

Most of what you mentioned were simply cultural things that faded away as time went on and Christianity began to make its influence felt.

God did ordain that women were to be submitted to their husbands.

Does that make God an opressor of women?

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by crazyhomie

What about Sarah calling Abraham Lord and walking behind him...(lol) This spirit of denegration is as old as dirt.

Peter comended her for that in his Epistle.

Of course, that was just a letter, not part of God's infallible Word, according to you. Right?

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

You must have read Schopenhauer.

Not bad.

Question: Are you familiar with the "sacred feminine" concept, and have you studied it?

somebody knocking on the door, get back with you in a bit.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by crazyhomie

What about Sarah calling Abraham Lord and walking behind him...(lol) This spirit of denegration is as old as dirt.

Read these verses, taken out of the collection of letters, poetry, history, and prophecy that we Apostolics consider to be the infallible Word of God:


1Pe 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
1Pe 3:2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
1Pe 3:3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
1Pe 3:4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
1Pe 3:5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:
1Pe 3:6 Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement. 1Pe 3:7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered.

Are you really and truly going to be so utterly arrogant as to say that Peter's commendation of Sarah's submission to Abraham was prompted by a "spirit of denegration?"

Folks--read this stuff.

[Coonskinner]

We've got ourselves a piece of work here, folks.

[Coonskinner]

The disrespect for and casual disregard for the Word of God is too much.

[The Mrs]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Most of what you mentioned were simply cultural things that faded away as time went on and Christianity began to make its influence felt.

God did ordain that women were to be submitted to their husbands.

Does that make God an opressor of women?

Now see...here's the fine line.

If I say one thing, I'm considered THIS...

If I say another thing, I'm considered THAT...

I understand the proper role of a woman, and how and what God created her to be...but what I'm looking at here is the traditional 'global' treatment of women throughout the ages. This was what I was seeing at the beginning of the thread...there are things in the bible, examples of living and lives, that ARE culturally related. God did NOT ordain them.

SOME OF THESE THINGS have faded away...but not all.

Neither in our culture, nor others.

Where does the 'church' stand now? Are we totally free of the denigration/persecution/second-class treatment of women?