Welcome Azzan Thread

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Charnock

Nope, not going to do it.

You are the liar. You've accused me of attacking Azzan when all I did was point out that you seem to have found your tin foil hat again.

What I did was point out lies that you have told, and everyone here knows that not only have you blatently lied but you continue to do it, which makes your rhetoric here all the more hypocritical

I wonder where your buddied went? maybe they got convicted of their sexual innuendoes and realized what a low they and you have sunken too?

[Charnock]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

See - that doesn't even make sense.

I'm telling you what you believe like you are telling me.

Originally Posted by Praxeas

What I did was point out lies that you have told, and everyone here knows that not only have you blatently lied but you continue to do it, which makes your rhetoric here all the more hypocritical

I wonder where your buddied went? maybe they got convicted of their sexual innuendoes and realized what a low they and you have sunken too?

What buddies?

Aren't you assigning motives where there are none?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Charnock

No "wow" when the head admin calls me a liar?

Typical.

I'm the head admin now. Ok. But I don't need to be an admin to see what everyone else saw, not just once, but several times you lied, was asked to back up your false accusations and didn't, and lied again.

As for calling you a liar, I admit it's a thin line between calling someone a name, which is what you did, and pointing out when a board members is lying, not merely being mistaken about something.

How does that work? Well, you made the accusations and it was pointed out to you that nobody was doing what you said they were, then you were asked to back it up and didn't, then you repeated the same accusations. At some point, it doesn't matter whether you are a liberal, conservative, admin or whatever, anyone can see that you are lying.

You're example here is egregious.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Charnock

What buddies?

Aren't you assigning motives where there are none?

what your motive is for lying is irrelevant.

BTW Azzan admits he is a homosexual...

And despite the body of evidence and many witnesses you have yet to admit to the lies and at the very least apologize and admit you jumped to conclusions.

Instead the more stubborn and embattled you become, the more foolish people think you look

[Charnock]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

what your motive is for lying is irrelevant.

BTW Azzan admits he is a homosexual...

And despite the body of evidence and many witnesses you have yet to admit to the lies and at the very least apologize and admit you jumped to conclusions.

Instead the more stubborn and embattled you become, the more foolish people think you look

People, of course, meaning you and your pack.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Charnock

People, of course, meaning you and your pack.

Charnock, it's very simple, prove your accusations are true. Quote the relevant posts.

You haven't, you won't and you can't.

[sandie]

Originally Posted by Charnock

Nope, not going to do it.

You are the liar. You've accused me of attacking Azzan when all I did was point out that you seem to have found your tin foil hat again.

You're not going to prove yourself right and the rest of us wrong.
You're funny....and check the neck, it has to feel pretty stiff at this point.

[scotty]

I can list your lies, can you list rebuttal ? lets walk through them shall we ?

Originally Posted by Charnock

A new low for AFF.

Can you show the reason for this opinion ?

Originally Posted by Charnock

Your acceptance of yet another abomination.

Show a post that says anyone has accepted abomination of any kind.

Originally Posted by Charnock

The notion that AFF is trying to convert this homosexual is laughable and downright silly.

We don't "convert". We teach with love and support. God converts.

You are not going to convert him by telling him he's okay, and suggesting he has no need of repentance.

No, you are way too worried about his feelings, and very unconcerned for his soul.

Lie. Please post where someone has said he is not in need of repentance or that his lifestyle is ok.

Originally Posted by Charnock

Have you suggested he does need to repent?

Yes.

Originally Posted by Charnock

The continued slide of this forum into outright apostasy is like the loss of a close family member.

You lie about your family often ? Post what you find to be apostasy please.

Originally Posted by Charnock

Sin brings condemnation.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Charnock

Preachers are not called to tolerate sin.

They are called to preach the Word.

- You love your freedoms more than you love your God.

- You love your friends more than you love Truth.

- You love your opinion more than you love God's.

Can you show examples of the above accusations ? If not, they are lies.

Originally Posted by Charnock

Homosexuality is a sin, a perversion, and an abomination.

Homosexuality will keep you from heaven.

You cannot be a Christian and be a homosexual.

Unrepentant homosexuals will go to Hell.

Agreed, can you post where anyone has said otherwise ?

Originally Posted by Charnock

Homosexuality is a selfish, depraved condition.

So is habitual lying and false witnessing.

Originally Posted by Charnock

"Christians" who tolerate homosexuality, without warning those involved of the eternal consequences attached to their behavior, are "holding the truth in unrighteousness."

Can you post anyone who has said otherwise ? If no then what are you suggesting ? More lies ?

Originally Posted by Charnock

I'm not asking for anyone to be banned. I'm simply commenting on the weird, disgusting, and approving manner in which homosexuality is discussed on this forum.

Please show anyones post that approves of homosexuality. No ? Then your lying again.

Originally Posted by Charnock

My issue is with the general attitude that accepts homosexuality as a normal Christian behavior.

Please post anyones attitude that has accepted homosexuality ? No ? Then your lying.

Originally Posted by Charnock

If all you do is accept sinners, yet never teach them that God wants them to separate from their sin, you are doing the work of the enemy.

Please quote anyone here who has done what your accusing here. No ? Your still lying.

Originally Posted by Charnock

Why are you so bothered by my opinion?

What is it that you're really fighting against?

Ignorance, your enemy number 1

Originally Posted by Charnock

The truth is, you are what you tolerate, and AFF seems to tolerate everything but absolutes.

Examples ? Another lie.

Originally Posted by Charnock

I am not a pastor, thus I cannot answer your question.

But you can condemn us with lies.

Originally Posted by Charnock

Where there is no attempt to correct, tolerance exists.

I see no push to save, only to accept.

Please post examples of what your "seeing". No ? Lying again.

Originally Posted by Charnock

I don't normally consider folks who call me a liar "friends."

Do you consider those who tell lies about you friends ?

Originally Posted by Charnock

Why do you keep comparing AFF to a church?

If AFF is a church, it must be the great whore of Babylon.

Condemnation ? Based on what ? More of your lies ?

Originally Posted by Charnock

There's a huge difference between arguing for liberty, and pressing to accept sin.

Who has done this ? Post please ? No? Then your lying.

Have you spoken out against the sin of homosexuality on this thread?

Yes, we have.

Originally Posted by Charnock

If we tolerate sin, and never warn of the consequences, aren't we condoning the sin?

There have been many warnings of the consequences, have you seen someone say differently ? No ? Then your lying.

Originally Posted by Charnock

I don't deny it.

I have been very bold for the sole purpose of balancing the spirit of tolerance that was present.

Can you quote examples of tolerance ? No ? More lies ?

Originally Posted by Charnock

Lastly, witnessing involves actually saying something. It involves a testimony.

Would you care to testify of your experience ?

We are only witnesses when we speak against sin, and for the life-changing power of Jesus Christ.

Show were anyone has said differently ? No ?

Seems no one was really interested in regeneration, only tolerance.

Show post of tolarance. No ? Lies.

Leaving someone to die in their sin is the most unloving, uncaring action I could ever imagine.

Now this is really funny, we accept him on the forum and you reem us for it, yet we cant "leave him to die in sin" .. so which is it ?

Originally Posted by Charnock

Tolerance is a virtue until someone challenges your own ideology.

What ideology are you challenging ? You have condemned based on lies.

Originally Posted by Charnock

This appears to be an attack on my character.

Naaa, just pointing out the obvious. And doing so by quoting your own words.

Originally Posted by Charnock

He did not accept her sin. He immediately began to witness and effect change.

Many tried that, then they were rudly interrupted by you.

Originally Posted by Charnock

Gee, aren't you being awfully judgmental?

Are you the pot or the kettle ?

Originally Posted by Charnock

It's a sad day when a person is considered an ultracon simply because he speaks against the sin of homosexuality, and the people who accept it as normative Christian behavior.

Can you quote anyone who has accepted the sin of homosexuality as "normative Christian behavior"? No? More lies ?

Originally Posted by Charnock

Further, your "liar" accusation is way off base.

I have no idea how you became an admin.

By stating the obvious, see above ? Your words are evidence.

Originally Posted by Charnock

Wrong. Please post evidence.

See above and below. Im counting on your continued lying to start a book .

Originally Posted by Charnock

Why save them? Apparently what they are doing is perfectly acceptable.

As evidenced by what post ? Lies.

Originally Posted by Charnock

No "wow" when the head admin calls me a liar?

Typical.

Page full of proof right here. Truth hurts huh ?

Originally Posted by Charnock

They are completely true, but go ahead and make your false accusations.

Well, cant beat them, join them.

As proof positive, you are a liar. On a personal note, your a sad excuse of an apostolic and a worse excuse of a Christian. I beg you to repent of your ways or face the condemnation of your sinful ways. I love you in Christ, but I don't condone your sins.

[Charnock]

Pretty much everybody has now said what I wanted them to say in the first place.

My work is done.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by Charnock

Pretty much everybody has now said what I wanted them to say in the first place.

My work is done.

Finally!