The Difference Between the PCI of the Merger and the Current Counterfeits

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Yes my friend, but my point is the word "backslider" that has offended so many. Even to the world the word would be applicable to some. A backslider is someone who leaves something they once believed.

Lets not be too hard on Coonskinner here.

I am not trying to be inflammatory, just "following the cloud" of conversation, as MOW would say.

Backslider to me is someone who turns their back on GOD.

I think this has been a great discussion. Probably won't change anyone's mind and I'm not sure anyone is even trying to do that, but it's been a good exchange.

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Yes my friend, but my point is the word "backslider" that has offended so many. Even to the world the word would be applicable to some. A backslider is someone who leaves something they once believed.

Lets not be too hard on Coonskinner here.

I am not trying to be inflammatory, just "following the cloud" of conversation, as MOW would say.

So by this defintion those who embrace the oneness theolgy who once saw the trinity doctrine would be backsliders?

A person who thought it was OK to smoke and be saved but now they feel that a person should not smoke..is a backslider??

[SDG]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Backslider to me is someone who turns their back on GOD.

I think this has been a great discussion. Probably won't change anyone's mind and I'm not sure anyone is even trying to do that, but it's been a good exchange.

Thanks RG for a clear definition.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Notice PP ... how this works ... Phil does not realize he is part of a culture ... that seeks to divide.

Careful! Don't lump him in with that lot.
You wouldn't want him to stereotype you now, would you?

THAT CULTURE gets way too much air time, and perhaps I am the most guilty of placing too much emphasis on them. I'm sick of 'em.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

America once believed in slavery and segregation ... have we backslid PP??? Of course, not

The term is being misused ... why do you insist on calling your friends and brethren such???

Daniel, slavery and segregation are not religious beliefs.

Bad analogy.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Careful! Don't lump him in with that lot.
You wouldn't want him to stereotype you now, would you?

THAT CULTURE gets way too much air time, and perhaps I am the most guilty of placing too much emphasis on them. I'm sick of 'em.

Here lies the problem .... It has seeped into the churches filled w/ good people ... Phil is good people

[Brett Prince]

Originally Posted by Theophilus

It teaches that all will hear that voice. How? Through who?

Great questions.

Through the one that is being born again of the Spirit. Jesus takes that tongue and does what he will with it.

Theo, I hate to say it, but you can't prove that. You can add to to this Scripture and make it say that, but you can't take it as it is and say it says tongues, or YOU speaking in tongues. It says that all who are born of the Spirit WILL HEAR HIS VOICE. That is it.

You hear that voice, but you can't tell where he's coming from with it, nor where he's going with it.

In context, this is correct.

We've seen this ever since Pentecost. Spiritual Baptism. Required.

Absolutely. How anyone can deny that one must be born of the Spirit is beyond me. This Scripture proves that, and it proves that those who are will hear His voice. But we cannot make it prove more. To do so is to stretch the Scripture and is not biblical purity.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Notice PP ... how this works ... Phil does not realize he is part of a culture ... that seeks to divide.

"When you can't refute the argument, marginalize the individual by accusing them of being part of some weird sub-culture that affects them in ways they cannot recognize."

An excerpt from "How to Obfuscate When Your Argument Is Thinner Than Sharecropper's Soup," by Daniel Alicea.

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Notice PP ... how this works ... Phil does not realize he is part of a culture ... that seeks to divide.

Nice judgment call, Danny Boy! You should ump in the majors!

What a joke!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Daniel, slavery and segregation are not religious beliefs.

Bad analogy.

I think not.

Both were practiced by God-fearing Christian people ... remember the apology on the latter???.