Are Beards The Mark Of The Beast?

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

Well there's nothing wrong with trying to reach them. But building a bridge, and praying they have revival in false doctrine wouldn't be what to ask for. Ask God to turn their world upside down so that the only place they can look is up, and in that they can search for truth. Ask Him to create a hunger for something greater, and don't let them be satisfied. That they can come unto the truth, with no reservations. That's what I pray for them for. I love people, trinitatarians, Muslims, mormons, all people, but Im nit trying to build a bridge to them In false doctrine.

I don't want you to think I'm insensitive towards them, because I'm not. But, I'm not going to go along with them in false doctrine, but I will do anything I can to pull them up to the truth. I just realize people have to be hungry, if your satisfied God will allow you to stay that way. Traditionalism is going to lead many to hell by the droves. I hate to even think about it, but the way of a transgressor is hard. We are all given a chance, its what you do with that chance that matters.

Quick question. Does Christ fill Trinitarians with His Spirit the Holy Ghost just so they can go to hell?

[berkeley]

I did no such thing.

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

Thanks for parroting my post.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Quick question. Does Christ fill Trinitarians with His Spirit the Holy Ghost just so they can go to hell?

Have you read Thomas Watson? You have a quote from him in your signature. The reason I ask is because I think if you were familiar with his theology, you wouldn't have felt the need to ask what you asked...

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Quick question. Does Christ fill Trinitarians with His Spirit the Holy Ghost just so they can go to hell?

You are filled with the Holy Ghost but if you are not baptized in Jesus Name, there is no covenant. Because as 1 John 5:8 say's "there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one." If any of these are missing there is no blood. You don't take Jesus' name on then you are illegitamite regardless. God may fill people with His Spirit, but the thing is, outside of what we see in scripture you can't be saved. It has to come from as it say's in John 3:5 "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

And then when it comes down to it what Jesus say's in John 8:24 reigns true "for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins." Not that He is one of the God's, but except you believe that He is as He say's He is in Revelations 1:8 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." Anything else is polytheism, and as Jesus told you in Mark 12:30 as was His answer to what was the greatest and first commandment "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord."


There is a lot of traditionalism that will lead people to hell. Not because God wanted them to, or not that He didn't give them every chance, but no friend that they utterly decided to go that way. Scripture is clear, but there's only 1 way, and there is absolutely only 1 God.

Check out the link for more info on the study I made on the Oneness of God. The last 10 pages are nothing but references of trinitarians bearing witness that they changed baptismal forumlas, and that the trinity was a late invention, there's a lot of stuff in it. Have a good night bro, and God bless.
https://www.pdf-archive.com/2018/07/...t-who-the-mes/

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Quick question. Does Christ fill Trinitarians with His Spirit the Holy Ghost just so they can go to hell?

No.

They just go to Hell because they are Trinitarians.

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Have you read Thomas Watson? You have a quote from him in your signature. The reason I ask is because I think if you were familiar with his theology, you wouldn't have felt the need to ask what you asked...

Honestly I have not. I have never really given his writings much thought. I have thought about his writings on repentance.

School me my brother!

[Michael The Disciple]

I don't want you to think I'm insensitive towards them, because I'm not. But, I'm not going to go along with them in false doctrine, but I will do anything I can to pull them up to the truth. I just realize people have to be hungry, if your satisfied God will allow you to stay that way. Traditionalism is going to lead many to hell by the droves. I hate to even think about it, but the way of a transgressor is hard. We are all given a chance, its what you do with that chance that matters.

Where am I going along with them in false doctrine?

So many are going to Hell because of TRADITIONALISM?

Friend you cant see the forest for the trees. If traditions of men lead to Hell....many modern day Apostolics should be very afraid.

Traditions of men like pre trib, immortal soul, preterism, rejection of the headcovering, women with long hair going to Hell because they trim it, Men going to Hell because they dont obey the corrupt teachers who say a man is rebellious for wearing a beard LIKE JESUS DID?

And they will say...But we obeyed Acts 2:38! They think their "Apostolic light" doctrine will save them.

The same Jesus who would reject Charismatics for not loving the truth of Acts 2:38 would reject Apostolics who worship him in vain, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Where am I going along with them in false doctrine?

So many are going to Hell because of TRADITIONALISM?

Friend you cant see the forest for the trees. If traditions of men lead to Hell....many modern day Apostolics should be very afraid.

Traditions of men like pre trib, immortal soul, preterism, rejection of the headcovering, women with long hair going to Hell because they trim it, Men going to Hell because they dont obey the corrupt teachers who say a man is rebellious for wearing a beard LIKE JESUS DID?

And they will say...But we obeyed Acts 2:38! They think their "Apostolic light" doctrine will save them.

The same Jesus who would reject Charismatics for not loving the truth of Acts 2:38 would reject Apostolics who worship him in vain, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

No one was saying that about you, I was talking about Trinitarians, in general!


When I'm saying traditionalism i'm talking about trinitarianism, that's a damnable tradition. It's polytheism. Someone having standards isn't a damnable heresy. Every church, job, and anything else you can think of in this world has rules. If you would work at a place that has rules, what is the problem?

But you just said those with "rejection of the head covering are going to hell"?
I wasn't saying you were going along with them, I Was saying as a rule for me I wouldn't. I was clearing up with you that i'm not insensitive towards trinitarians. And you went and spilled your hate for Apostolic's SMH!! This is pointless.

Everything I do is about worshipping Him in Spirit and in truth. And that whole immortal soul thing you claim, you still haven't said what it meant in 1 Peter 3:18-19. I guess it is like E.B. said if your Post Trib you are ok. Some of the things you say are ridiculous. You are the one who can't see the forrest for the tree's. You are lost in the sauce, and can't find your way out. Get over yourself and go on a hunt for the confirmation of the presence of God in a real church, is my only advice. Where the confirmation of His presence is the strongest, get behind the man of God, and get out of your own way. But don't bite at everybody who tries to help you.

[Michael The Disciple]

When I'm saying traditionalism i'm talking about trinitarianism, that's a damnable tradition.

I have not said someone who believes in 3 co equal co eternal persons each one distinct from the other will arrive in the eternal kingdom.

And pre trib is not a damnable heresy?

2 Thess 2:1-3

1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

So can someone who teaches pre trib, Jesus can come before the man of sin is revealed....someone Paul here is calling A DECEIVER OF GODS PEOPLE really expect to have a home in Heaven?

How about the preterist who teaches Jesus came for the resurrection 2000 years ago?

Is this a damnable heresy?

2 Tim. 2:4

16But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 17And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 18Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

Is this not a damnable heresy?

Who are we to give modern Apostolics a free pass into Heaven while they themselves are walking in heresy?

Someone having standards isn't a damnable heresy. Every church, job, and anything else you can think of in this world has rules. If you would work at a place that has rules, what is the problem?

Are the standards Biblical? If so call them what the Bible calls them. COMMANDMENTS. Then you will have something to stand on. I dont see the word "standards" in the Bible.

Everything I do is about worshipping Him in Spirit and in truth. And that whole immortal soul thing you claim, you still haven't said what it meant in 1 Peter 3:18-19. I guess it is like E.B. said if your Post Trib you are ok. Some of the things you say are ridiculous.

Charismatics will say everything THEY DO is about walking in Spirit and Truth. Are all of them doing it? Are all Apostolics doing it? Are you willing to read my writings on the resurrection of the dead?

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I have not said someone who believes in 3 co equal co eternal persons each one distinct from the other will arrive in the eternal kingdom.

And pre trib is not a damnable heresy?

2 Thess 2:1-3

1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

So can someone who teaches pre trib, Jesus can come before the man of sin is revealed....someone Paul here is calling A DECEIVER OF GODS PEOPLE really expect to have a home in Heaven?

How about the preterist who teaches Jesus came for the resurrection 2000 years ago?

Is this a damnable heresy?

2 Tim. 2:4

16But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 17And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 18Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

Is this not a damnable heresy?

Who are we to give modern Apostolics a free pass into Heaven while they themselves are walking in heresy?



Are the standards Biblical? If so call them what the Bible calls them. COMMANDMENTS. Then you will have something to stand on. I dont see the word "standards" in the Bible.



Charismatics will say everything THEY DO is about walking in Spirit and Truth. Are all of them doing it? Are all Apostolics doing it? Are you willing to read my writings on the resurrection of the dead?

Some churches are pre trib, but another huge part of the Apostolic world doesn't even recognize any of that. They do as Peter spoke of in 1Peter 3.2-16. The man with the keys to the kingdom did he say you need to follow pre trib, post trib, any of these things? No he said "Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless." As is the purpose of the ten virgins parable also.

All those different eschatology labels were named and made by theologians and 99 % of them didnt have the holy ghost! I'm just trying to be fair so I gave for 1 %! Eschatology is something no one is perfect on, but then again there is no commandment anywhere that demans that you are. If there was I'm sure all the churches would follow it.

We see standards enforced all throughout the scripture. It wasn't a commandment that Timothy was circumcised, that my friend was a standard. Moses commanded that they clean theirself up, and stay away from women that was a standard commanded from leadership. There's many other examples, but those are 2 I'll leave you with.

When I said earlier that go where you can feel the presence of God the strongest. Feel.is the best word my human mind can find for what I'm trying to relate. God will give witness through His manifestation of His glory! It's a weight that can't be denied!