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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Sean you aren't answering my question. You are shopping for answers which you THINK satisfy your belief. Yet can you explain why you bfirst placed chapter 1 of Micah in 722 BC and then place it in the future? While I see no problem with doing this you first must explain some questions your teaching is creating. What temple is God leaving to destroy pagan worship areas known to the prophet as high places? In verse 13 of chapter 1 of Micah it speaks of a prophecy specifically concerning the city of Lachish? Is this the future or is it in the past? If past how is the prophet relaying that to his listeners? Also in Jeremiah 26:18 the prophet refers back to the prophet Micah in chapter 1 to show that Micah was correct when he said God would leave His sanctuary and destroy the places of paganism in Israel. From what Jeremiah says he believed Micah's words were fulfilled and using them as an example for what would happen during his lifetime.
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Sean, OK, so you are going to be a silly billy?
Come on Mr Preterist Killer, answer my posts! 
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11-05-2015, 08:48 PM
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
Attention all preterists.
You say that all O.T. prophecies are fulfilled.
When did this happen?.....
Zechariah 14
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the Lord shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.
14 And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.
15 And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
20 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, Holiness Unto The Lord; and the pots in the Lord's house shall be like the bowls before the altar.
21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the Lord of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the Lord of hosts.
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Hear, all ye people; hearken, O earth, and all that therein is: and let the Lord God be witness against you, the Lord from his HOLY TEMPLE.
So here we have the Lord coming out of His place, which is the Holy Temple. If this is future Sean, then what Temple will be HOLY in the future? God leaves this HOLY temple and attacks the pagan high places.
For, behold, the Lord cometh forth out of his place, and will come down, and tread upon the HIGH PLACES of the earth.
Now verse four is what shag was trying to pry out of you like pulling impacted molars.
And the mountains shall be MOLTEN under him, and the valleys shall be CLEFT, as wax before the fire, and as the waters that are poured down a steep place.
Does this happen in the past at the siege of Lachish ( Micah 1:13)? Or somewhere off in the far distant future?
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Sean? Oh Sean Boy!?
Did you miss this nice colorful posting of mine?
Please be a nice chap and answer it with some Bible. 
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
What a bunch of cowards, not being able to explain a passage in public, for fear of ridicule.
That must be one nasty explanation in their little book...LOL
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11-05-2015, 08:50 PM
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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What a bunch of cowards, not being able to explain a passage in public, for fear of ridicule.
That must be one nasty explanation in their little book...LOL
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Sean, be nice, and do answer my posts.
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11-05-2015, 08:50 PM
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
Come on Sean, answer my posts. 
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11-05-2015, 08:51 PM
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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Originally Posted by Sean
Attention all preterists.
You say that all O.T. prophecies are fulfilled.
When did this happen?.....
Zechariah 14
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the Lord shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.
14 And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.
15 And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the Lord will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.
20 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, Holiness Unto The Lord; and the pots in the Lord's house shall be like the bowls before the altar.
21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the Lord of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the Lord of hosts.
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You can offer preterists money, and they still will not dare give an explanation of this passage.
They only teach you their "other" meanings in a secret room. 
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11-05-2015, 08:51 PM
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
Sean, Sean, Sean, why are you such a hater?
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11-05-2015, 08:52 PM
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Sean you aren't answering my question. You are shopping for answers which you THINK satisfy your belief. Yet can you explain why you bfirst placed chapter 1 of Micah in 722 BC and then place it in the future? While I see no problem with doing this you first must explain some questions your teaching is creating. What temple is God leaving to destroy pagan worship areas known to the prophet as high places? In verse 13 of chapter 1 of Micah it speaks of a prophecy specifically concerning the city of Lachish? Is this the future or is it in the past? If past how is the prophet relaying that to his listeners? Also in Jeremiah 26:18 the prophet refers back to the prophet Micah in chapter 1 to show that Micah was correct when he said God would leave His sanctuary and destroy the places of paganism in Israel. From what Jeremiah says he believed Micah's words were fulfilled and using them as an example for what would happen during his lifetime.
Sean maybe you should answer my question instead of throwing me your Google searches. Searches which you don't understand or are able to explain. |
I wouldn't give you dime because you wouldn't do the job.
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"all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
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11-05-2015, 08:53 PM
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Re: Changing To Preterism from Rapture Doctrine
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Hear, all ye people; hearken, O earth, and all that therein is: and let the Lord God be witness against you, the Lord from his HOLY TEMPLE.
So here we have the Lord coming out of His place, which is the Holy Temple. If this is future Sean, then what Temple will be HOLY in the future? God leaves this HOLY temple and attacks the pagan high places.
For, behold, the Lord cometh forth out of his place, and will come down, and tread upon the HIGH PLACES of the earth.
Now verse four is what shag was trying to pry out of you like pulling impacted molars.
And the mountains shall be MOLTEN under him, and the valleys shall be CLEFT, as wax before the fire, and as the waters that are poured down a steep place.
Does this happen in the past at the siege of Lachish ( Micah 1:13)? Or somewhere off in the far distant future?
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Sean? Be nice, come on, be a Christian.
Answer my post.
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