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03-02-2011, 09:49 PM
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Re: A Relevant Holiness Message
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
I always felt that THIS was never (OK, maybe rarely is a better word) preached in church simply because it is actually hard to do. It doesn't produce the "Amen! Preach it!" shouts that a good hard holiness sermon does. It is far far more difficult to look at the brother whom you can't stand and try to love him then it is the bobbed hair woman on another pew who needs to be shown the error of her ways and lifted up as an an example of the Jezebel spirit that she is! Can I get an AMEN!
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I don't even know what you are talking about. LOL!
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03-02-2011, 09:50 PM
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Re: A Relevant Holiness Message
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
So, do you run around in life throwing daisies in the air, holding up the peace sign never having to go to God to ask him to forgive your heart and help you to love people? Again, when I feel as though I don't like someone, I pray for them until I can feel the compassion of love. I have had to do that with Obama.
And don't try to say that he is on the same plane as RM. Obama affects every single person in the whole country. He is our president. RM is a pastor of a church in Houston. That is his territory. No one in Alaska, Minnesota, Nebraska, Utah, New York has anything to do with him, but they do with Obama.
And even if I didn't like RM, I wouldn't be so callous, sneaky and hateful to fix up a video clip to persecute him on YouTube.
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How incredibly sad that you can't answer the most basic of questions. Your non-answer is a very loud answer. I'm very disappointed in you and your spot at the top of my "most-respected of the 3-steppers" list is a goner.
But I doubt you care.
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03-02-2011, 09:51 PM
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Re: A Relevant Holiness Message
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I don't even know what you are talking about. LOL!
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Just making a tangent comment based on the bolded. Carry on.
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03-02-2011, 09:56 PM
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Re: A Relevant Holiness Message
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How incredibly sad that you can't answer the most basic of questions. Your non-answer is a very loud answer. I'm very disappointed in you and your spot at the top of my "most-respected of the 3-steppers" list is a goner.
But I doubt you care.
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No, I don't really care what you think about me. You come across just as judgmental, many times, toward people as you say conservatives are. Pounce on every stupid little nit picky thing they say and blow it to high heaven.
And if you approved of the clip that Daniel posted on YouTube, then your spot on top of the "most-respected" of the one-stepper list is a total goner. I can play your silly, trivial little game too.
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03-02-2011, 09:56 PM
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Re: A Relevant Holiness Message
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Just making a tangent comment based on the bolded. Carry on.
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LOL! Well, it started out good, but then I lost you. LOL!
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03-02-2011, 09:59 PM
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Re: A Relevant Holiness Message
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No longer on Youtube -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ051RhFcHI
POK (McKee) has written Youtube it appears claiming a copyright violation
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REALLY??? That's how it was taken down?? Unreal.
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Oh, that is awesome!!!! Way to go Rob!!!
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03-02-2011, 09:59 PM
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Re: A Relevant Holiness Message
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So, you are just full of love for every single human being on this earth? Whatever. You live in fairy land or are just arrogant. Now YOU are being goofy.
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Oh yes, very arrogant. When I say I love people, that's just my arrogance showing. Fulfilling the directions of Jesus makes one arrogant. Whatever.
Yes, I'm full of love for every person I've ever known. It's not that big of a deal when you consider a couple things: 1) What they've experienced in their lives that has made them what they are. The very characteristics that frustrate me to no end are very likely the product of an environment they didn't create and didn't ask for. Gangs are a BIG problem here and when I look in their eyes, I see someone that Jesus died for. How can I not love them when Jesus went through what He did....FOR THEM?! People matter to God, therefore, they should matter to me. Yes, I love that guy with the waist of his jeans hanging below his butt, hat turned sideways, colors on in full display, and 3 teardrop tattoos below his eye that probably indicate he's killed three people. I love him. 2) Since Jesus told us to do unto others as we would have them do unto us, if I want to be loved, I must love.
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03-02-2011, 10:02 PM
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Re: A Relevant Holiness Message
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No, I don't really care what you think about me. You come across just as judgmental, many times, toward people as you say conservatives are. Pounce on every stupid little nit picky thing they say and blow it to high heaven.
And if you approved of the clip that Daniel posted on YouTube, then your spot on top of the "most-respected" of the one-stepper list is a total goner. I can play your silly, trivial little game too.
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"You come across just as judgmental, many times, toward people as you say conservatives are. Pounce on every stupid little nit picky thing they say and blow it to high heaven."
And THEN you say I was your most-respected one-stepper? Somehow, that just doesn't feel like the truth. Did the polygraph machine just blow up?
I've never thought any of those kinds of things about you. None at all. But sorry I'm such a judgmental nit-picker to you.
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03-02-2011, 10:05 PM
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Re: A Relevant Holiness Message
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"You come across just as judgmental, many times, toward people as you say conservatives are. Pounce on every stupid little nit picky thing they say and blow it to high heaven."
And THEN you say I was your most-respected one-stepper? Somehow, that just doesn't feel like the truth. Did the polygraph machine just blow up?
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I can respect you without agreeing with what you believe. And I have respected you and liked you even when you did blow up over silly, nit picky things. That's just how you are. Maybe if you "love" everyone so much, you could just love me for how I am too.
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03-02-2011, 10:16 PM
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Re: A Relevant Holiness Message
Miz: It seemed like you were drawing conclusions from my comments that I didn't intend. I don't believe that RM was being a hypocrite, because I think you have to intentionally live a double standard in order for something to be "hypocrisy." I don't think he was purposely putting forth a double standard. I think it just happened because he preached a message about holiness, and talked about a practice he didn't like, and irony of ironies, the same behavior showed up on his platform a week later. That alone doesn't make him a hypocrite, because he couldn't predict what GP was going to say or do (understatement alert).
More than likely, all the services from POK are posted online without necessarily RM's direction for every single one. However, you would think that he might have told his web guy to pull that one since it was inconsistent with what was preached the week before. Maybe he decided not to fight that battle--or maybe he didn't really think about the inconsistency until it was brought to his attention. Who knows? Unless RM decides to answer, we really can't know what his thoughts were. The only conclusions I can draw are that the posting of GP's sermon *looks like* tacit pastoral approval, and that RM is opposed to at least some of the content of GP's sermon according to his previous week's message.
I'm not interested in attaching a character flaw or sin to that.
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