rico i dont know why you want to argue, but yes if you must i do think the innocents need to be protected, all innocents, the babies, and i dont press my beleifs on anyone, but the babies cant protect themselves, we have to do it for them, good grief bro, dt
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You guys are the ones who want to force your religious beliefs on others, not me. Y'all are the ones who need to lighten up. Apostoliban unite!!
So, not killing babies is a religious belief that you don't share?
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You don't want anyone to bow to your beliefs except the one you have about abortion, DT. That means you want to impose your beliefs on others, Bro. What about the rights of the non-religious in this country? Y'all wanna argue the Bible on this issue. Are the non-religious people in this country supposed to do nothing while you stop them from having abortions because you think it's a sin in the sight of God?
I think your words are betraying you, Rico.
You say you're against abortion, but you use the term "you guys", and "you think its a sin in the sight of God".
Do you think the murder of babies is a sin in the sight of God?
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Poster I've been away. But to answer your question. I hear what you are saying, but you have to remember that a part of why we left England in the first place was because of their desire to legislate their morality.
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I don't believe there's a time when abortion is needed...Every case senerio you've used I've seen resolved WITHOUT the killing of the baby.
I gave you a real life senerio where doctors advised abortion due to a cancerous tumor in the uterus. This lady goes to a UPCI church and a pastor friend of mine was personally involved with counseling her and her husband.
See that's the problem....you and bureaucrats always think you know everything...then a woman faces a situation no one considered due to unique complications or circumstances and you'd kill her.
Rico, I really lean towards your side on this issue, but for your argument (above) to work you have to believe that the unborn do not have rights. If that is what you are saying, can you clarify?
Brad, what I am saying is simply this: Several people have argued against abortion from a Biblical standpoint. No problem with that whatsoever. However, there are many people in this country who aren't Christians. A lot of them are even atheists. What right do we as Christians, and believers of God's Word, have to impose our beliefs on anyone? We don't, plain and simple.
Let's just ban everything we don't agree with in this country! Completely take the whole place over. We could call ourselves the Apostoliban. We'll have our leaders issue decrees everyone, Christian or not, would have to abide by. Anyone who dares defy the Apostoliban would be severely punished! Individual liberties would be completely abolished. The time has come for the Apostoliban to rise up and take its rightful place in the war against unrighteousness!
You're exactly right...at least when dealing with Dave. Ferd, he's not as extreme.
You say you're against abortion, but you use the term "you guys", and "you think its a sin in the sight of God".
Do you think the murder of babies is a sin in the sight of God?
I've answered this question so many times I am getting sick of answering it MP, and I am not going to go down the same road with you or anyone else today.