The UPCI Needs a Healer

[Barb]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Perhaps THIS is the type of man some are waiting for?


[Verse]
Where have all the good men gone
And where are all the gods?
Where's the street-wise Hercules
To fight the rising odds?
Isn't there a white knight upon a fiery steed?
Late at night I toss and turn and dream
of what I need

[Chorus]
We need a healer!
I'm holding out for a healer 'til the end of the night
He's gotta be strong
And he's gotta be fast
And he's gotta be fresh from the fight
I need a healer
I'm holding out for a healor 'til the morning light
He's gotta be sure
And it's gotta be soon
And he's gotta be larger than life

[Verse]
Somewhere after midnight
In my wildest fantasy
Somewhere just beyond my reach
There's someone reaching back for me
Racing on the thunder end rising with the heat
It's gonna take a superman to sweep me off my feet

[Chorus]

[Verse]
Up where the mountains meet the heavens above
Out where the lightning splits the sea
I would swear that there's someone somewhere
Watching me

Through the wind end the chill and the rain
And the storm and the flood
I can feel his approach
Like the fire in my blood

Originally Posted by Pastor G

Might as well re-write the rest of the songs from "Flashdance."

If you are not jesting.... It is "I Need A Hero."

After just reading about Bro. MY in Thad's Tab, I think this is the song we need, guys...


We don’t need another political uprising
We don’t need another conqueror on the scene
What we need is a special word that will burn within our hearts
And give us direction from above

We need a word from the Lord...a word from the Lord
Just one word from the Lord will move all the doubts
And cause the sun to shine and give peace of mind
Speak Lord...speak, Lord

Lord, we lack Thy wisdom and Thy understanding
Lord, we lack the very love You showed in the Son
Lord, we’ve altered in Thy ways and we stand so much to gain
So give us your word, Lord...speak Lord

We need a word from the Lord...a word from the Lord
Just one word from the Lord will move all the doubts
And cause the sun to shine and bring peace of mind
Speak Lord...speak, Lord

[Straightline]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Oh boy!!! You are such an ultracon! To suggest bailing wire for a job that can be more easily done with duct tape???

Pallet-heist:

See posts #245 and #365.
You are sooo behind the times

If you expect to hit something,
Aim in a
Straightline

[RandyWayne]

I keep reading this thread and a few other posts expecting a white knight to ride over the horizon and "heal the rift" caused by resolution 4 (in a manner AGAINST the current vote of course). Then I was listening to this song in my DJ folder, and the two sort of jelled.

Some people just NEED that human authority figure in their lives to fix and solve all their problems.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by rkentsmith

Dear Sis....

You are living with a misconception...

RKS is not leaving......

And indeed......

The UPCI Needs a Healer

Not sure I'm living with it, but thanks for clearing that up!

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Pastor G

Might as well re-write the rest of the songs from "Flashdance."

If you are not jesting.... It is "I Need A Hero."

And I WAS jesting. I just turned every "hero" into "Healer".
(Original song by Bonnie Tyler)

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by rkentsmith

Haha.......

There are many on this forum that chose to leave the UPCI......

Why all the angst toward these men who choose to leave for the same reasons.....

That is....

Did not care for what the UPCI stood for in some manner.....

They leave because they are men of convictions...

FTR....

These men driving this meeting are not the kook fringe or rabid cons.....

They simply continue to preach and believe what they did years ago....

IMHO....and that is all this piece is.....

Res 4 must be changed or the split is on....

I will miss those that leave....

God Bless

So you want the healing to be the reversal of the vote......well, don't think that's going to happen.

Maybe the healing is that everyone does what they feel they need to do and no one holds any hard feelings against the other and all go about doing whatever they are suppose to do for the Lord!

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by rkentsmith

Haha.......

There are many on this forum that chose to leave the UPCI......

Why all the angst toward these men who choose to leave for the same reasons.....

That is....

Did not care for what the UPCI stood for in some manner.....

They leave because they are men of convictions...

FTR....

These men driving this meeting are not the kook fringe or rabid cons.....

They simply continue to preach and believe what they did years ago....

IMHO....and that is all this piece is.....

Res 4 must be changed or the split is on....

I will miss those that leave....

God Bless

So that we can have a good discussion on the subject based on understanding, let me point out that I have maintained that the men leaving are very good men who deserve utmost respect.

RKT, again you havent explained why resending Res 4 brings healing? At this point, resending res 4 MIGHT stop a split, but do you really think that will bring healing?

I agree healing is needed, but I dont really understand how resending Res 4 will bring healing?

Im glad you arent leaving.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by rkentsmith

Folks...

I indeed mentioned the GS....

But other leaders on both sides of the issue as well............

Go back and read the origonal post....

It appears the tunnel vision is with the celebrants who rejoice in the saddest decision the UPCI has ever made.....

Sadly, many feel this is a liberating move for the UPCI....

But is the decision worth the results.....

Not in my book

It was a great decision a long time coming...the sad part are those that can't support it and feel they need to leave.

BTW anyone have stats on how close the vote was when they first voted against TV? Did everyone vote yes on it?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Straightline

"And indeed......

The UPCI Needs a Healer"


Bailing wire might do the job




The ties that bind
are a
Straightline

Yes....well no, the UPCI does not need a healer. Healing is for people, not for organizations. So which people need to be healed? IS it a spiritual healing? Physical or emotional?

Is it the UCs that can't live with this and insist on leaving or is it the cons, mods and liberals that believe it's ok to use TV to reach the lost?

Your answer will reveal a lot about you, however what two parties need, that are in division, is conflict resolution.

That demands compromise on BOTH parties....having only one party come and say "we need to reverse our decision to pacify those that are marching out" is NOT compromise NOR is it conflict resolution. It's what America says it will NEVER do with Terrorists...give in to their demands. That's not conflict resolution. Two sides need to come to an agreement both can live with.

Are the UCs that are leaving able to come to an agreement that they can live with and that the non UCs can too?

I don't think so. It's therefore NOT the UPCI that needs healing...it is those individuals that need healing...or maybe a change of opinion or a willingness to find a middle road or common ground.

I think the NON-UCs are willing to have a statement that as an org we condemn most of what passes as TV programming and whole heartedly disapprove of Christians watching them. However we realize that not all TV programming are inheritly evil or lead to sin and that it can be untilized to spread the gospel.

That is the only solution I can see...a condemnation and admission that we should not watch a lot of TV programming just as we should not listen to a lot of radio programming or partake of a lot of Internet stuff or reading material, but that in and of itself, tv, radio, printed material or the internet are not inheritly evil.

What the author of this post is asking for is NOT healing. He's asking those that voted for this to "admit you were wrong and change it back" essentially

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Straightline

Pallet-heist:

See posts #245 and #365.
You are sooo behind the times

If you expect to hit something,
Aim in a
Straightline

BTW if a blind leader walks straight towards a ditch and the blind are following....guess what? A straight line will have them both falling into a ditch.

Food for thought for the straightline