All Trinitarians are Lost!!!!!!!!!!!

[AR Pastor]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

NO ONE (individual or group/sect/denomination) in the HISTORY of the Christian Church has ever believed the "full package" you listed. To my knowledge no group ever connected glossolalia as the initial evidence of the Spirits baptism prior to 1901, even amongst the sporadic instance of individuals claiming to speak in tongues that pop up here and there in church history.

Meanwhile.....

You condemn those trinitarians to hell who have paved the way for your freedom to do so without it costing you your life. Ironically it cost many of them theirs.

You read and preach from an English Bible that is the translation work of John Wycliffe (trinitarian), William Tyndale (trinitarian, and gave his life to translate that Bible), and then the team of original KJV translators (all trinitarian).

If you read commentaries they are likely trinitarian (unless you've read less than 20, since that's about the total # of oneness produced commentaries), if you have benefited from Bible dictionaries, encyclopedia's, concordances, or lexicons (none of which are produced by oneness pentecostals) then you have a trinitarian to thank.

Do you enjoy hearing preaching and congregational singing in your own language? All thanks to trinitarians.

Do you ever sing Amazing Grace, Rock of Ages, Blessed Assurance, How Great Thou Art, It is Well With My Soul, Crown Him With Many Crowns, All Hail the Power of Jesus Name, The Wonderful Cross, and a thousand more God glorifying hymns? All the work of trinitarians.

Were you born or ever received treatment at a Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran, or Baptist hospital? Yep. All trinitarians.

So while you condemn them all to hell, discounting them being burned alive, strangled, beheaded and the like for their faith please tell me exactly what contribution has oneness pentecostalism made to the furtherance of the gospel in the last 2000 years?

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by AR Pastor

Great response. Translation "I've got nothing."

[obriencp]

Great Points, Jason.

It's challenging when you try to have a real conversation with self-righteous people.

[Steve Epley]

A great man once said "When truth no longer means everything then truth no longer means anything."

[AR Pastor]

There is no use in trying to talk with those who have been turned over to are probate mind.

The bible also says
Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Great response. Translation "I've got nothing."

Jason, I will not judge the sincere trinitarians that you have described in the
recent posts. I have felt the same way about the multitudes that have given all to even get us our Bibles and freedoms to read it.

If they were not truly born again and died that way, they will miss the "catching away"(first resurrection), and stand before the Lord at the Great White Throne. They will be judged according to their works(knowledge of what they must do for themselves and God). I believe many will be saved there and all will be judged under the Law(non born again people). However, if they openly opposed ANY kind of truth as it was revealed in their lifetime, they will most likely be condemned there. It all comes down to the individual, and what they did with the knowledge they had in their lives.

The only way to "ensure" that we do not have to be judged at the GWT is to be saved the ACTS 2:38 way. This group will be part of the first resurrection. Apostolics are simply promoting to be saved by the Lord's PLAN A..... Plan B(GWT) is alot more risky to the individual.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by AR Pastor

There is no use in trying to talk with those who have been turned over to are probate mind.

The bible also says
Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you

You are wrong....James 5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;

20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

You must try harder and convince folks that you have the truth. Not just write-off folks that you dont agree with. They are valuable to the Lord. The Lord put you here for that reason brother.

[AR Pastor]

There are too many people that have never heard this glorious truth to waste time arguing with those who have been turned over to a reprobate mind and rejected God's Word.

I will try to feed those that are hungry and not waste my time trying to FORCE feed those who refuse the ONLY SAVING MESSAGE.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Sean

You are wrong....James 5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;

20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

You must try harder and convince folks that you have the truth. Not just write-off folks that you dont agree with. They are valuable to the Lord. The Lord put you here for that reason brother.

Both of you are correct a person just has to be wise enough to understand who is who?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Both of you are correct a person just has to be wise enough to understand who is who?

Amen my brother...but this is soul winning also. Just some fish are more elusive(smarter) than others. They want our explanations, and not just our rhetoric. I have been advocating an official position for our oneness brethren to grasp regarding the non born again multitudes and where they will stand with God on judgement day. Just sending them all to hell because they were not born again(when the vast majority of the world for at least 1000 years never possessed a Bible at all or had access to the truth), is not right. My prior post #536, would be a good starting point I think..... This position is in no way compromising Acts 2:38....