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Old 04-01-2008, 11:43 AM
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Re: David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decis

BTW, we were told the UPC will never come in to the local church and dictate the way it is operated.



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I was at a meeting of ministers last night.

There was considerable upset over the idea that there is a further need for holiness affirmation.

We agreed to it when we were licensed.

We sign an affirmation each year.

Now this.

What's next?

A signature in blood?
I agree it's insulting.
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:50 AM
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BTW, we were told the UPC will never come in to the local church and dictate the way it is operated.



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It's all for show ... keeps the Holiness police happy while placating those who value sovereignty.

Like the Urshan letter that followed up the passage of the AS.

After awhile it gets old and predictable.
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Old 04-01-2008, 12:32 PM
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There will be a closed "holiness" meeting for all ministers at General Conference this year. Leaders will reaffirm the UPC's committment to the holiness standards listed in the manual. A question and answer session will be part of the meeting.
Although the memories are fading into the distant past. Ya know, "History becomes legend. Legend becomes myth...." -that sort of thing.
But I never remember a TRUE Q&A session in the church. Are "hard questions" ever allowed? Or are they still run like an amen corner?
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Old 04-01-2008, 12:39 PM
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Although the memories are fading into the distant past. Ya know, "History becomes legend. Legend becomes myth...." -that sort of thing.
But I never remember a TRUE Q&A session in the church. Are "hard questions" ever allowed? Or are they still run like an amen corner?
I think the purpose of the meeting answers the question of whether will be a True Q&A. The meeting is not to "discuss" holiness standards. It is to "reaffirm" them. I imagine the questions will be more along the lines of "how do I teach x,y,z to my congregation?"
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I have a feeling it will not be a true Q and A session.

Even if it is most men are too afraid to really buck the system.
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BTW, we were told the UPC will never come in to the local church and dictate the way it is operated.



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tell that to Ron Lyles.
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tell that to Ron Lyles.
I actually mentioned that in the meeting.

I was way too bold though.
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I have a feeling it will not be a true Q and A session.

Even if it is most men are too afraid to really buck the system.
So why don't you attend and ask some hard questions?
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It's all for show ... keeps the Holiness police happy while placating those who value sovereignty.

Like the Urshan letter that followed up the passage of the AS.

After awhile it gets old and predictable.
Someone need more bran in their diet??

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