You Be The Judge: Afp1996 vs Jason - Page 53

Daniel12 · #**521** 06-03-2009, 02:23 PM

Just thought I'd drop a line to make it known I'm still working through the debate analysis. It's only a ten page Word Doc, but I've only gotten about three pages into it. I will post what I have once I work through it.
Daniel12

TK Burk · #**522** 06-03-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

He is NOT going to answer your questions instead he will attack you personally or accuse you of not answering his questions after you have answered them. BUt he will post a post with prewritten material that has NOTHING to do with the questions you aksed him. Just my thoughts. You are out of luck he is NOT going to because he can't.

Eld. Epley, I see your back with your normal Christian attitude.

As far as NOT answering...ever figure out how you can prove your claim that "GENERATION" means "RACE" in Matthew 24:34?

Also, ever figure out how you can prove your claim that there were no water baptisms in OT?

It sure would be different to see you prove one of your claims....

Be blessed!

mfblume · #**523** 06-04-2009, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

He is NOT going to answer your questions instead he will attack you personally or accuse you of not answering his questions after you have answered them. BUt he will post a post with prewritten material that has NOTHING to do with the questions you aksed him. Just my thoughts. You are out of luck he is NOT going to because he can't.

I know I will get no answers. If someone else can quote each question I asked and then post FP's responses, I will be happy. That is not a hard request to respond to. I looked for the answers and cannot find them.

It's your Passover plot occurring, Bro Epley.

Or better yet, please let the FP's repeat their answers if they claim they already made them. That should not be hard to do if they think the questions are easy to answer.

I just wants their answers according to Full Preterism. What's the deal? I will take the blame for having poor memory and not recalling their answers. I just want the answers.

Steve Epley · #**524** 06-04-2009, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfblume

I know I will get no answers. If someone else can quote each question I asked and then post FP's responses, I will be happy. That is not a hard request to respond to. I looked for the answers and cannot find them.

It's your Passover plot occurring, Bro Epley.

Or better yet, please let the FP's repeat their answers if they claim they already made them. That should not be hard to do if they think the questions are easy to answer.

I just wants their answers according to Full Preterism. What's the deal? I will take the blame for having poor memory and not recalling their answers. I just want the answers.

Ain't gonna happen.

TK Burk · #**525** 06-04-2009, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfblume

I know I will get no answers. If someone else can quote each question I asked and then post FP's responses, I will be happy. That is not a hard request to respond to. I looked for the answers and cannot find them.

It's your Passover plot occurring, Bro Epley.

Or better yet, please let the FP's repeat their answers if they claim they already made them. That should not be hard to do if they think the questions are easy to answer.

I just wants their answers according to Full Preterism. What's the deal? I will take the blame for having poor memory and not recalling their answers. I just want the answers.

Bro. Blume, you and Eld. Epley are two peas in a pod. Let's look at what you both are doing:

Eld. Epley claimed "generation" in Matthew 24:34 means "RACE." He did this in effort to prove that Matthew 24 was not directed toward the generation to whom Jesus spoke, but instead was for a future race of people. I pointed out to him that he is in error because “generation” in no form or fashion means “race.” As a result, I told him that he had no argument for a future fulfillment. When asked to prove me wrong by showing how “race” is in that verse, he has instead repeatedly ignored that opportunity....

Also, Eld. Epley claimed there are no water baptisms in the OT. I gave him more than a dozen verses that proved him to be in error. I explained to him about “baptism” meaning “immersions,” and how that aligns to the OT Mikvahs. When asked to prove me wrong with his Bible, he has instead repeatedly ignored that opportunity....

Now we come to your claim that you were not—and could not—read the posts made by me and Bro. Benincasa during the time you claimed to have us on ignore. I mentioned that during that time, when you claimed you were not reading our posts, you were still answering what we posted in detail. I also mentioned that during that time I had posted how such ability is highly improbable unless you were actually reading what we posted. Then when you posted your recent questions and claimed (as usual) that we did not answer you, I asked how you could know since, during the time we were supposedly on ignore, we did talk about some of those questions. You first responded that during the time you claimed you were not—and could not—read out posts, you were actually reading what we posted. That sure seems dishonest to me… When I questioned you on this you then claimed you also went back and read all of our posts before accusing us of not answering your questions. But, Bro. Blume, your own words betray you, for you yourself originally stated that you were definitely not reading what we were saying at all. Regardless of what you now claim, that is what you originally asserted. Such inconsistency sure changes the whole nature of your recent accusation of unanswered questions….

I think it is quit telling that the two of you are now defending each other against me asking you to come clean on these points. You both made the above claims, not me. I am only guilty of pointing out what you both had said. So now you both attack me for asking you to explain—truthfully—what you yourselves said?? You two are so desperate to make your positions look correct that you’ve used arguments and made claims that are simply untrue. Your solidarity because of my questions sure says a lot about your intent….

mfblume · #**526** 06-04-2009, 06:06 PM

Bro Epley,

I guess I am a liar, despite telling to the truth in all I have said in this forum. Odd, huh? Meanwhile, people accuse you of not answering them and they are not answering anyone, themselves.

Jason B · #**527** 06-04-2009, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TK Burk

I am only guilty of pointing out what you both had said.

Well that, and completly side stepping the questions.
What's new?

afp1996 · #**528** 06-04-2009, 10:32 PM

Jason, show us the gap in Matthew 24 before repeating your above statement.

Steve Epley · #**529** 06-04-2009, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfblume

Bro Epley,

I guess I am a liar, despite telling to the truth in all I have said in this forum. Odd, huh? Meanwhile, people accuse you of not answering them and they are not answering anyone, themselves.

That is how he operates when a person answers him he ignores it and keeps on saying he wasn't answered even when he is posting the answer. Old trick but boring. He will not answer you because he cannot answer you.

afp1996 · #**530** 06-05-2009, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

That is how he operates when a person answers him he ignores it and keeps on saying he wasn't answered even when he is posting the answer. Old trick but boring. He will not answer you because he cannot answer you.

He must have learned it from you then....huh?