Should we teach others to rebel against standards?

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Aquila View Post
"Yes, but neither he, nor I, said that he was presently a pastor."

This is what you did say Aquila: "This man claims to have served the Lord for over 30 years, a pastor, a bishop as an elder etc.! What??? And he speaks like this about a politician's carnal, and perhaps even criminal, antics??? This man's justification of bad behavior has lowered his moral compass. Why? Because he has blended his faith with a political agenda, and that means supporting a man of bad behavior as part of his religio-political loyalties."

Then a little farther down on the glorious church post number 31 btw Aquila you said: "They gentleman is UPCI. Politics is the art of compromise. And blending politics with his faith has left him... morally compromised."

[1ofthechosen]

My question how could he blend politics with his faith and be half back slidden? That just makes him a reprobate. And whether he use to be the General Superintendent doesn't really matter!

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Aquila

No. My point was how politics in the pulpit and political hero worship can contribute to carnality, especially if we try to justify their bad behavior.

Throughout the conversation, he affirmed still being a Christian.

Trump has carnality in his life, and that's your current crusade? Talk about "mixing politics and religion", you should heed your own advice.

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

Originally Posted by Aquila View Post
"Yes, but neither he, nor I, said that he was presently a pastor."

There is a difference. Above Aquila said that he didn’t say that he was presently a pastor. Below he says this man claims to have been a pastor. One is present tense the other is past tense. I don’t have a dog in the fight, but don’t twist his words. That’s unacceptable.

[/QUOTE=1ofthechosen;1528169]This is what you did say Aquila: "This man claims to have served the Lord for over 30 years, a pastor, a bishop as an elder etc.! [QUOTE]

Can you see the difference?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

There is a difference. Above Aquila said that he didn’t say that he was presently a pastor. Below he says this man claims to have been a pastor. One is present tense the other is past tense. I don’t have a dog in the fight, but don’t twist his words. That’s unacceptable.

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

This is what you did say Aquila: "This man claims to have served the Lord for over 30 years, a pastor, a bishop as an elder etc.!

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Can you see the difference?

Any rabbi worth his salt could see the difference.

[1ofthechosen]

[QUOTE=Tithesmeister;1528173]There is a difference. Above Aquila said that he didn’t say that he was presently a pastor. Below he says this man claims to have been a pastor. One is present tense the other is past tense. I don’t have a dog in the fight, but don’t twist his words. That’s unacceptable.

[/QUOTE=1ofthechosen;1528169]This is what you did say Aquila: "This man claims to have served the Lord for over 30 years, a pastor, a bishop as an elder etc.!

Can you see the difference?

It's more about the other quote. The one you didn't quote btw. This part said something different to me and everyone else that saw it. "They gentleman is UPCI. Politics is the art of compromise. And blending politics with his faith has left him... morally compromised."

But I do see that now but at the time that statement was saying something else to me. Because somehow he was being faulted for being a Apostolic preacher and saying that. If they use to be a Apostolic preacher then what does it even matter? Because more than likely the dude is a reprobate. It was made out to be something it wasn't.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by n david

Aquila doesn't know if this guy was UPCI.

"to me, UPCI, ALJC, COOLJC, PAW, ABCs & 123s, it makes no difference."

Can't believe his posts anymore. Dude couldn't make an honest post holding a Bible, looking at Jesus.

Aquila, your forum cred is dead.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

There is a difference. Above Aquila said that he didn’t say that he was presently a pastor. Below he says this man claims to have been a pastor. One is present tense the other is past tense. I don’t have a dog in the fight, but don’t twist his words. That’s unacceptable.



Can you see the difference?

Holmes, stick to arguing about percentages or how much one should give or not give. Because defending Chris, can only be achieved by him and him alone. You will find that making any attempt to plead Chris' case is a tar baby.

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Holmes, stick to arguing about percentages or how much one should give or not give. Because defending Chris, can only be achieved by him and him alone. You will find that making any attempt to plead Chris' case is a tar baby.

Chris can look out for himself. However, right is right and wrong is wrong. Saying he said something he didn’t, is wrong. We have enough issues with misunderstandings without doing that.

Speaking of which, I’m pretty sure you don’t have me on record of telling ANYBODY how much they should give, or not give. I don’t do that. It goes against my core beliefs.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Chris can look out for himself. However, right is right and wrong is wrong. Saying he said something he didn’t, is wrong. We have enough issues with misunderstandings without doing that.

You posted that you have no dog in this fight? Guess what, you are right, and may I suggest you take your own advice.

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Speaking of which, I’m pretty sure you don’t have me on record of telling ANYBODY how much they should give, or not give. I don’t do that. It goes against my core beliefs.

Don't worry, we will get to that sooner or later. You are like the Brother Irvin Baxter Jr of no tithing.