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07-11-2009, 08:34 AM
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Re: Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?
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Agreed Tina!
I was shocked to read his post that he thinks everyone has to agree with admin here - like you said, we don't even all agree!
I remember Ferd kidding about his Lortab making him post wild - - makes me wonder if Ron has been taking some Lortab the past couple days.
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Why that is just silly! Eveyrone doesn't have to agree with admin here - just me!!!!! 
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
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07-11-2009, 08:40 AM
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Re: Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?
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I am a big believer in borders. I think the United States should actively protect our borders and stop the flow of illegal immigration.
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I wish they would but I have no faith.
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07-11-2009, 04:01 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?
The Jews believed in borders too...they were meant mostly to keep others out rather than let others in...think about it
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07-11-2009, 08:40 PM
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Re: Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?
God bless bro. Mooney
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07-12-2009, 10:55 AM
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Re: Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?
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God bless bro. Mooney
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We now see tired men expressing their fears; frustrated that the innovations they were raised in failed to take root. Like a house built upon the sand, Mooney sees an edifice crumbling before him. Better to have built upon the Rock.
Mooney's a good guy, but he's a clone of Nathaniel Urshan - the man who stammered endless apologies for his father's writings in our General Conference meetings.
What was wrong with the "old paths?" The paths blazed by our pioneers like A.D. Urshan and others? And what's wrong with going back to those paths? It's far better than following the deceit and the cruelty that have characterized the implementation of the newer agenda.
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07-12-2009, 11:19 AM
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Re: Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?
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We now see tired men expressing their fears; frustrated that the innovations they were raised in failed to take root. Like a house built upon the sand, Mooney sees an edifice crumbling before him. Better to have built upon the Rock.
Mooney's a good guy, but he's a clone of Nathaniel Urshan - the man who stammered endless apologies for his father's writings in our General Conference meetings.
What was wrong with the "old paths?" The paths blazed by our pioneers like A.D. Urshan and others? And what's wrong with going back to those paths? It's far better than following the deceit and the cruelty that have characterized the implementation of the newer agenda.
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Maybe wer need more clones like N. Urshan and some of the other early Pentecostals. They weren't perfect but they were strong men and women
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07-12-2009, 11:20 AM
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Re: Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?
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We now see tired men expressing their fears; frustrated that the innovations they were raised in failed to take root. Like a house built upon the sand, Mooney sees an edifice crumbling before him. Better to have built upon the Rock.
Mooney's a good guy, but he's a clone of Nathaniel Urshan - the man who stammered endless apologies for his father's writings in our General Conference meetings.
What was wrong with the "old paths?" The paths blazed by our pioneers like A.D. Urshan and others? And what's wrong with going back to those paths? It's far better than following the deceit and the cruelty that have characterized the implementation of the newer agenda.
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I mentioned this same thought to an elder once...not online, but face to face, and he said, "Well, those men are dead and gone now."
What did that mean?!
They have been placed on the pedestals of 20th century Church pioneers for years, but now we are told in so many words by some to discard all that was said and written, as if it had no meaning or merit or depth.
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07-12-2009, 01:38 PM
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Re: Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?
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Maybe wer need more clones like N. Urshan and some of the other early Pentecostals. They weren't perfect but they were strong men and women
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Why not a "clone" of N. Urshan's dad? He was a pretty good guy, too. Plus his path was the older path, thus better. Right?
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07-12-2009, 02:00 PM
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Re: Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?
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We now see tired men expressing their fears; frustrated that the innovations they were raised in failed to take root. Like a house built upon the sand, Mooney sees an edifice crumbling before him. Better to have built upon the Rock.
Mooney's a good guy, but he's a clone of Nathaniel Urshan - the man who stammered endless apologies for his father's writings in our General Conference meetings.
What was wrong with the "old paths?" The paths blazed by our pioneers like A.D. Urshan and others? And what's wrong with going back to those paths? It's far better than following the deceit and the cruelty that have characterized the implementation of the newer agenda.
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Pel, nice to see you posting again. 
The old paths should start with the Bible and the apostles not with those coming out of Trinitarian churches at the turn of the last century. Just as the 16th century reformers held onto some false baggage from the RCC, so did those folks who came out of the mainline churches into Pentecost in the early 1900's.
Maybe you haven't noticed but some the those espousing the old paths you speak of are as nasty and cruel as the ones you say implemented the new agenda (which wasn't really new but as old as the apostles).
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07-12-2009, 02:17 PM
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Re: Mooney Guns for "Secret" Meeting in Detroit?
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Maybe wer need more clones like N. Urshan and some of the other early Pentecostals. They weren't perfect but they were strong men and women
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I do not think of N.A. Urshan as "one of the early pentecostals."
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