Apostolic Feminists - Page 52

Felicity · #**511** 04-01-2007, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CupCake

Some things are private, no matter how good of friends you may be. A few years back I was shocked when a close friend of mine told me her husband was sexually abusing her and the games he wanted to play, these were church folks.

Okay. So I accept that some of these women I thought I knew/know I don't really and that they could might maybe possibly perhaps be manipulative and controlling women using their sexuality and femininity to have their way about whatever it is they want to have their way about.

Feel better?

Still though, I never saw or picked up on that kind of behavior from them so it would just be evil surmising and guesswork ... and I'd still like to think that they're not like that.

Felicity · #**512** 04-01-2007, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Newman

Felicity-

Even if this were true*; what has it got to do with what 15 year old girls (living in Texas in our sex-crazed media-saturated society) need to learn about?

I made a post about this already.

Rhoni · #**513** 04-01-2007, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Felicity

Oh my word Rhonda. I can't believe you said that.

When I want a favour from my boss, I do not manipulate in any way. I simply show him respect and honour, do my best to please him in my work and then ASK him for what I want. It works!

I have never acted in any kind of sexually suggestive manner or used femininity as any kind of leverage.

Don't judge me based on what you do or don't do.

I'm not judging you at all..just disagreeing with your perception of reality!

Blessings, Rhoni

#**514** 04-01-2007, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Barb

Rhonda, do you seriously believe this...that the women Felicity knew then and now are deceivers?!

I don’t think these women would view it as being deceivers. During my husbands pastors days I've dealt with women who felt used by their husbands, they felt sexually used by their mate, he always want it, it’s always about his needs, what about me, etc. I think this can go both ways. I really think most would be to embarrassed to admit to such doings, especially people in the church.

Barb · #**515** 04-01-2007, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Felicity

Okay. So I accept that some of these women I thought I knew/know I don't really and that they could might maybe possibly perhaps be manipulative and controlling women using their sexuality and femininity to have their way about whatever it they want to have their way about.

Feel better?

Still though, I never saw or picked up on that kind of behavior from them so it would just be evil surmising and guesswork ... and I'd still like to think that they're not like that.

Well, it's just too bad you have to admit to believeing something you don't believe to be true to make others feel better...it's crazy!!

Newman · #**516** 04-01-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Felicity

I made a post about this already.

Which one?

Truly Blessed · #**517** 04-01-2007, 08:17 PM

Just my 2 cents worth and I will leave the room so you ladies can finish your discussion without interruption. I just want to say that I happen to personally know most of the same women that Felicity is referencing and I have to say that I never saw these women using their sexuality in a manipulative way in public. Now, what went on within the privacy of someone's home, only they would know. However, I think I'm going to call up some of my good male friends and tell them to wipe the satisfied look off their face, that they are probably not the lover boys they think. They are actually being used by their wives.

Friend

I think I will start a campaign that requires all married women to take a lie detector test following sex.

Rhoni · #**518** 04-01-2007, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CupCake

I don’t think these women would view as being deceivers. During my husbands pastors days I've dealt with women who felt used by their husbands, they felt sexually used by their mate, he always want it, it’s always about his needs, what about me, etc. I think this can go both ways. I really think most would be to embarrassed to admit to such doings, especially people in the church.

I have heard this same thing from about 98% of the women I have counseled in the past 4 years. They were between the ages of 25-55 years old. This becomes more of an issue when the married couple has children and she is exhausted from taking care of the house and children and just want to sleep when they get to bed.

Felicity · #**519** 04-01-2007, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

Felicity, you need to go back and READ your own post.

I think all we are saying is you are saying you are so naive to all this and we can't buy that. Just because you don't do it youself doesn't mean you can't admit that it is done and you've pretty well said you just can't believe most women would do this.

They do. Men even know they do.

Thank goodness you don't do it, but all we are trying to say is out of the list of people you listed you've said that you don't know anyone that does.

I wish the hairspray thread was available because I believe I remember you posting something about getting your way with TB by doing something. I remember it so well because I was suprised that you would have posted it.

I don't remember if I said that. I may have.

I was just going to make a post about the fact that we all (as husbands and wives) bargain with one another sometimes or use the art of persuasion perhaps. That's one thing. That's not a bad thing. That isn't being manipulative or controlling in the negative sense.

It's also not about using beauty or sex in a deceptive devious manner to accomplish something or other and to get our own way. There's a difference.

LOL! TB said here a couple minutes ago that you were agreeing with me. I said, "Oh no she isn't!!"

rgcraig · #**520** 04-01-2007, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

Just my 2 cents worth and I will leave the room so you ladies can finish your discussion without interruption. I just want to say that I happen to personally know most of the same women that Felicity is referencing and I have to say that I never saw these women using their sexuality in a manipulative way in public. Now, what went on within the privacy of someone's home, only they would know. However, I think I'm going to call up some of my good male friends and tell them to wipe the satisfied look off their face, that they are probably not the lover boys they think. They are actually being used by their wives.

Friend

I think I will start a campaign that requires all married women to take a lie detector test following sex.

Thanks for your great sense of humor!! Now, tip-toe on out of here....